What is Kovalev?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Komaster, Sep 4, 2019.


How would you label his current state?

  1. Prime

    0 vote(s)
    0.0%

  2. Slightly passed prime

    9 vote(s)
    15.8%

  3. Well Past Prime, early decline

    30 vote(s)
    52.6%

  4. Early shot era

    13 vote(s)
    22.8%

  5. Completely shot

    3 vote(s)
    5.3%

  6. Past shot must retire

    2 vote(s)
    3.5%
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  1. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    PM actually stands for Prime Minister
     
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  2. Dance84

    Dance84 Unicorn and seastar land Full Member

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    Cool
     
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  3. Badbot

    Badbot You can just do things. Full Member

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    Define shot.
     
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  4. UniversalPart

    UniversalPart Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think he has become power shy. He isnt throwing that right hand to KO the opponent with the same regularity as before.

    Personally I think he has discoverd his pure boxing form and seems comfortable doing it.

    Listen, if he can KO you with a jab it means his power is still there. However he has become more of a boxer now and that may actually give him some longevity.
     
    UniversalPart, Sep 4, 2019
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  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    He is Krusher!
     
    CST80, Sep 4, 2019
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  6. Somali Sanil

    Somali Sanil Wild Buffalo Man banned Full Member

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    He seems happy with life Kov, good on him, has a smile on his face a lot more recently
     
    Somali Sanil, Sep 4, 2019
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  7. chacal

    chacal F*** the new normal Full Member

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    He should fight canelo, take the money and retire no matter the result.

    Any other option in my humble opinion is a mistake.
     
    chacal, Sep 4, 2019
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  8. DON1

    DON1 ICEMAN Full Member

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    Well past it, but still good enough to body the young pup.
     
    DON1, Sep 5, 2019
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  9. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I went with slightly past prime. His redeeming clinic vs Alvarez and his stopping of a young hungry good prospect, even with a few hairy moments cements that opinion. He was legit hurt vs Yarde, but hardly exhausted, mentally or physically. I think his chin has slightly depreciated, which was never iron clad - hence the past prime rating.
     
    Komaster, Sep 5, 2019
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  10. bruce_keyes

    bruce_keyes Well-Known Member Full Member

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    When is Kovalev?
     
    bruce_keyes, Sep 5, 2019
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  11. Komaster

    Komaster Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    How, when and what. Then explain why...
     
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  12. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Well past prime and in decline, proof? Canelo's talking about fighting him.
     
    Reinhardt, Sep 5, 2019
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  13. MorvidusStyle

    MorvidusStyle Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think we have to split prime/post-prime into physical and mental categories.
    I think his physical style ages well, fences from range, never relied on super speed or reflexes or volume. I'm not sure he's lost that much in this area. Look at his performance against Alvarez in the second fight, it was very sharp.
    But psychologically he's likely not the same after taking some big losses, so because of this he's not the same Krusher perhaps. Having said that, he showed good mental toughness in the Yarde fight, that can't be denied.
     
    MorvidusStyle, Sep 5, 2019
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  14. Tramell

    Tramell Hypocrites Love to Pray & Be Seen. Mathew 6:5 Full Member

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    Why is Kovalev?
     
    Tramell, Sep 5, 2019
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  15. Beouche

    Beouche Juan Manuel Marquez Full Member

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    Clenelo taking a leaf out of the Manny Pacquiao book - wait til a former great fighter is looking past it, drain him, then get on as many drugs as you can. Only difference is Clenelo is pretty much universally despised within boxing circles while the equally repugnant Pacquiao is for some reason revered. ****ing horse****
     
    Beouche, Sep 5, 2019
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