What is so great about Mike Tyson vs Spinks?

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  1. fists of fury

    fists of fury Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Good to see you're still here Magoo. :good
     
  2. mr. magoo

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    Likewise my friend :D
     
  3. salsanchezfan

    salsanchezfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I'd like top know how you come up with the absolute certainty that Spinks wouldn't be KO'ed by any decent prime heavyweight........where on earth are you getting that?

    The thing about the tale of the tape is also useless information. I don't care what the scales or tape measure said, Spinks simply was not a heavyweight. He was a light-heavy who ate a lot and lifted some weights to challenge an old man whose dilapidated condition made him appear like a wooly mammoth stuck in a tar pit. There's nothing else to read into this.
     
  4. Saad54

    Saad54 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Nice post.

    It was a hugely anticipated fight.

    For some reason, I did not order it on home PPV, but, instead, travelled with my buddy to Charlestown Raceway in Charlestown, WVA to watch it on a big outdoor movie screen. We got there early and got near the front row. The undercard went on forever, I remember Carl Williams outpointed Trevor Berbick in a borefest. Finally, the main event started. Everyone was on edge, then, boom, game over. I didn't really feel cheated but it was a huge surprise Spinks couldn't last at least a few rounds.
     
  5. klompton2

    klompton2 Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    The idea that Spinks looked any more scared than any other time is b.s. Go back and watch his earlier fights and he always looked like that. He was just a goofy looking guy to begin with.
     
  6. HerolGee

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    it was the beginning of the end for mike who must have started to believe that he could stop any man on the planet in seconds without rounds and rounds of bobweavepeekabooangles. fool, him.
     
  7. Saintpat

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    Hindsight is 50/50.
     
  8. Entaowed

    Entaowed Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Well SalsaSanchezFan: there is an ambiguity involved in the wording here.
    I denied that Spinks would be KOed by any, as in all, decent prime HW.
    I did not claim that none could KO him.
    But he himself was a good HW.

    Holmes was not nearly as far gone as you claim.
    He was not severely "dilapidated" like a sick Parkinson's Ali.
    He was just no longer great.
    Though he was past prime, & one decision was likely wrong.

    Spinks & his real vs. natural size is a question of more nuance.

    True he did lift weights & train scientifically to get to HW. And was bigger than some ATGS like Marciano, Dempsey, Louis...

    I know all about lifting, have done it for years, read much about it....

    You should care what something like the scale says when he is still lean.
    AND visually & by measurement was not bulky or "blown up" looking.
    This means he had the natural bone structure to carry 212 lbs. of lean muscle.

    There are tons of guys who could have easily fought at several divisions.

    Spinks was not at HW very long like Tunney (who was somewhat smaller)...
    But he showed he could handle big boys like ****ey who despite his deterioration could still hit like a monster.
    Foreman got him out within 2, still said he, Lyle & Big Cat Williams hit him the hardest ever.

    Spimks was NOT a Bob Foster, over-matched by everyone at HW though dominant lighter.
    though he was no great HW, he was pretty good.

    Spinks was scared against Tyson, admitted later "Fear was knocking at my door big time".

    That stiffness likely had him taken out earlier...But given Tyson's speed & skill, I do not think The Jinx could have outboxed him & stayed away for very long anyway.
     
  9. Stevie G

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    it was mainly due to the status of the fight. It was the first time since the first Ali-Frazier bout seventeen years earlier when two men could claim legitimate status as THE heavyweight champion.
     
  10. TBooze

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    I guess, with hindsight; hindsight is seemingly always 99/1...;)
     
  11. Azzer85

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    Ali picked Spinks to win.

    Ring Magazine felt Spinks was the true champ while Tyson was just an impostor.

    Many people were also constantly accusing Tyson of ducking Spinks, which ****ed Tyson off (this was orchestrated by the big mouth of Butch Lewis).

    Tyson-Spinks was the Mayweather/Pacqiauo of its time.

    Tyson got $25m for 91 seconds work and that was nearly 30 years ago, fighters dont even get that kind of money today. Except Floyd.
     
  12. latineg

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    I don't think its his greatest performance

    however, many picked Tyson to crush Spinks and because Spinks was pretty good it became a fight where Tyson really got known as being able to deliver.
     
  13. clark

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    To answer the original question: It wasn't great. It was an over-hyped, money making fiasco. Regardless of who picked Spinks (for whatever reason), Tyson was going to stop him in a few rounds. It just happened to be in the first.
     
  14. Balder

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    I even felt this before the fight.

    I gave him 4-5 rounds max... No blown up Light heavy was going to challenge Mike at his natural weight class, and in his Prime.

    I saw the highlights after it, would not waste the money,as I knew it would be a massacre. LOTS of others felt the same.
     
  15. salsanchezfan

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    I disagree; the tale of the tape means nothing most of the time. If Tommy Hearns puts on a few more pounds and tips the scales at 210, he's suddenly a heavyweight then? Even if he trains "scientifically?" Come on.........