what is the argument for Usyk being above Crawford in p4p?

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  1. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    Usyk is a phenomenal fighter, he truly is...but what is the argument that he is better than Crawford?

    Crawford is equally if not more skilled than Usyk. they are both undisputed champions and undefeated
     
  2. TipNom

    TipNom Active Member Full Member

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    The division in which Usyk became undisputed was stronger than the division in which Crawford became undisputed, and Usyk moved up to beat a top 2 heavyweight who was 20lbs heavier than him and then beat him again in the rematch.

    Crawford on the otherhand is yet to fight Ugas, Thurman, Spence, and he never fought Pac. His best wins at Welter are over Shawn Porter and a past it Brook
     
  3. senpai

    senpai Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bud will be in everyones eyes, if/when he beats Spence and Charlo(which is very very possible in the next two fights)
     
  4. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk made himself a legend in 19 fights. I do not recall every seeing that before.

    Also, since Fury has yet to sign to fight him, Usyk has at this time vanquished all of this declared rivals. Crawford...no.

    Finally, Usyk came up from cruiser to conquer the heavyweights, which RIGHFULLY gets you the most points, because it is an unlimited division.

    Nothing against Crawford, he is #2 or #3 PfP. Uysk is doing something unique.
     
  5. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Crawford is resting on fights from 10 years ago. And his resume is extremely weak for his age.
     
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  6. drenlou

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    Better resume.
     
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  7. vast

    vast Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Much much better resume. Much better fighter. Reached a pinnacle in just 19 fights.
     
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  8. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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  9. Dannymita

    Dannymita Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Crawford's resume is thinner than a takeaway menu and in the amount of time it's taken to make Crawford Vs Spence.... Usyk has battered everyone and their mum
     
  10. lordlosh

    lordlosh Boxing Junkie banned Full Member

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    F****** resume, f****** anything, the big question is, will Crawford be even as half as fast both on his feet and hands at CW ??? How his cardio will be at CW ??? He will have 1/10 of Usyk cardio at that weight.


    Just look the supposed P4P king Canelo. His power absolutely diminish at 175, and his speed was absolutely garbage compare to Bivol, who looks like a Ali in his prime against him. Same for the cardio and his output.

    People talk about skill, but obviously the more you weight, the slower you will be, as well as your cardio/energy level will be worst, it's not also sure if you will carry the same power and durability.


    Canelo is the ultimate proof, that many of the supposed P4P kings, would actually be not that good if they were actually at CW or HW or the supposed "even" weight hat P4P is supposed to be. Moving up and their skill level seems to disappear.

    And yeah, nobody beat Usyk. And to be fair i would have Tyson Fury somewhere in there. Imagine any of this midget be as fast and mobile as him, and having that cardio at his weight ???
     
  11. DoubleJab666

    DoubleJab666 Dot, dot, dot... Full Member

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    What is the argument for Usyk being above Crawford in p4p?

    Yes.
     
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  12. scandcb

    scandcb Active Member Full Member

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    Because his record is more impressive.

    It's not that difficult to understand.
     
  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Terry is an excellent fighter but aside from his resume being very poor for a P4P fighter, with the exception of once which he was awarded a medal of honor for - him fighting exclusively at home oftentimes with a home ref and two or three home judges on a deck stacked in his favour, often having had a significant weight advantage over his opponents and rarely having been the smaller man, and even up at 147 he's fighting opponents who roughly weigh the same as him, he's barely fought any punchers let alone ones his size

    How many can you name?

    This is what happened one of the few times he has

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    This was a grotesque size mismatch

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    Usyk has fought more savage punching KO artists and legit bangers in his last 11 fights than any other world champion I can think of in recent memory, all of whom his size, bigger or way bigger, all on the road or in their backyards, and almost all of whom world champions, and that has never happened to him once
     
  14. fitzroy boy_iron mike

    fitzroy boy_iron mike Active Member Full Member

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    Close thread
     
  15. Grinder

    Grinder Dude, don't call me Dude Full Member

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    Usyk's resume is so much better than Crawford's, just the suggestion of comparison is absurd. Crawford would need to clean out 147 and 154 to come close, including Spence, Enis, Charlo, Fundora, Castano, Tszyu.