what is the argument for Usyk being above Crawford in p4p?

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  1. bluebird

    bluebird Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's beaten better boxers, all away from home
     
  2. Ph33rknot

    Ph33rknot Live as if you were to die tomorrow Full Member

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    Crawford is untested Spence it the test and vice versa
     
  3. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council banned Full Member

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    Usyk’s defence may be better or he is more defensively responsible whereas Bud is a more vicious SOB in the ring who has a genuine nasty streak and wants to **** up his opponents. P4P at this point in time it’s a case of who you personally prefer. If Usyk beats Fury and Bud beat Spence then it will an interesting call but as you know I don’t believe Bud will beat Spence and when Spence beat he become P4P number 1. I know many not you think Fury will beat Usyk. As for me let’s just say Usyk is showing something’s in there that remind me of Ali in terms of skills, movement and resilience and there is no higher compliment I can give than that.
     
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  4. Jackman65

    Jackman65 FJB Full Member

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    Has Crawford beat an elite fighter his own weight? Crawford made his name at 140, where he unified against much smaller guys. He walks around at 160 but fought the likes of Gamboa. Meanwhile, Usyk just beat one of the top (arguably top 2-3) Heavyweight fighters of this era for the second time. AJ dwarfed Usyk and outweighed him by 25lbs on fight night.

    Usyk is beating guys much bigger than himself and is about to fight a guy who is going to dwarf him by even more than his lay opponent. Crawford has managed to avoid the best guy at his weight for how many years? The fact that Crawford hasn’t fought Spence for so many years disqualifies him from the top PFP spot. The fact that he’s never beaten a top fighter who is physically bigger than him and has enjoyed a major weight advantage for his entire career, until recently, tells you all you need to know.

    Can you imagine how cruiserweight size Usyk would do against 175 pounders? I guarantee he wouldn’t duck anyone like Crawford has managed to do at 147 for YEARS. Usyk’s natural weight is around 200. He’s never ducked anyone at any weight or needed a gift decision, and his biggest victories have been in his opponents’ backyard. How many fights has Crawford won in Omaha? It’s not even close, the comparison between these guys. It’s an insult to even ponder the thought that these guys are comparable. Usyk by a mile.
     
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  5. MrBarry465

    MrBarry465 Active Member Full Member

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    P4P is a load of nonsense to be honest.

    'IF HE WAS BIGGER HE WOULD BEAT X Y AND Z' is a load of ****. It's a marketing term.
     
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  6. Oddone

    Oddone Bermane Stiverne's life coach. Full Member

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    Common sense.
     
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  7. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    skill wise what does Usyk do better than Bud?
     
  8. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Beat better fighters.
     
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  9. Mister Pugilist

    Mister Pugilist Active Member Full Member

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    is Usyk's resume really stronger than Bud's though?
     
  10. It's Ovah

    It's Ovah I am very feel me good. Full Member

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    Why does there need to be an argument. It's very obvious who the superior fighter is, and it isn't Crawford.
     
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  11. FastLeft

    FastLeft Well-Known Member Full Member

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    what is the point of p4p again?
    oh yeah, no ****ing point whatsoever
    except bunch of bull**** hype
     
  12. Midwood

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    Usyk is more skilled, better resume , undisputed cruiser , unified HW ,did it all on the road and never been down.
     
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  13. fencik45

    fencik45 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    P4p is a pantload. It is pure conjecture that some spew as fact. Same with comparing fighters from different era's.
     
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  14. Maidanas Gun Tattoo

    Maidanas Gun Tattoo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Explain why it’s not.
     
  15. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Usyk has been fighting the best and cleaned out a strong Cruiserweight division.

    Crawford is yet to fight any of his main rivals at 147. Crawford has alot of decent wins, but theres no stand out wins on his resume.
     
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