What is the best run a guy's been on while looking the most vulnerable?

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  1. Monogamous STD

    Monogamous STD Ya know, Quasimoto predicted all this. Full Member

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    I was just watching Wlad's last outing and thinking how vulnerable he was looking these days but how few guys I think can capitalize on it. Then I started thinking about how the first few years of his reign it seemed like everyone was convinced he was always one punch away from losing again. Then I started thinking about some of the tough decisions and battles Holmes and Evander got while into their best runs. What's the farthest a guy got, the best run without getting derailed or taken off the elite list while looking the easiest mark? Any guys that seemed to hang on by a thread but keep going and going? I've got to admit there were some JMM fights years ago where I thought "He's getting knocked out soon." as opposed to "He'll go the distance with Mayweather and knock Pacquiao out cold soon."
     
  2. TheExpertboxer

    TheExpertboxer Active Member Full Member

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    Marciano. Jermain Taylor
     
  3. TheMikeLake

    TheMikeLake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I think Larry Holmes has to rank up there.

    Editing as I've gotten a chance to elaborate.

    Holmes won the WBC title in 78 and lost to Spinks for the first time in 85, so I'll consider that his legendary run. In those years he -

    Won said title in 78 by SD over Norton
    A Whisker away from losing the title in 79 to Shavers
    Knocked down by snipes in 81
    SD Witherspoon in 83

    Legendary run but cut it close a few times. However I've almost out thought myself by saying if he ONLY had four close calls in seven (or so) active years as a champion, and against largely quality opposition, then maybe he really wasn't doing that bad...hmmm. Look at me thinking and stuff.
     
  4. jont

    jont Active Member Full Member

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    I remember Jorge Maramero Paez in the early 90's looking like he was so vulnerable with his fighting style but he kept plugging away and making defense after defense.... always thought that someone was going to beat him and not let his fooling around tactics distract them .... took a while for that to happen
     
  5. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    I love overachievers who continue to look vulnerable. Easier to root for them.
     
  6. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Gatti while still a champ

    Ali in second reign

    Waldo, always one good shot away.
     
  7. TheMikeLake

    TheMikeLake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I agree with the first two but with the exception of his last fight it had been nine years since he lost, and eight since he got dropped by Peter's clubbing shots ( I will say they are legit). I also for years thought he was vulnerable, but until last week it had been at least five years since I really thought Wlad would get KO'ed. I can see your point though, knowing his past (way past now) it's easy to see why you would feel this way and in that regard I don't totally disagree.
     
  8. The Funny Man 7

    The Funny Man 7 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Although he occasionally looked spectacular, as against Kalambay and Roldan, Michael Nunn often looked vulnerable even as he was steadily inching up the pound for pound rankings.

    The same goes for Terry Norris.

    After Hector Camacho got busted up by Rosario, he got blamed for tepid performances and spotty results, but he still notched wins against Boza, Roach, Baltazar etc before he lost to Haugen.

    But, Victor Galindez has to be the king of the last minute, photofinish, by the skin of his teeth title retaining wins with SDs against Burnett, Fourie, his death defying knockout of Kates, Lopez (twice), and Mustapha Muhammad.
     
  9. timmers612

    timmers612 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Good posting. Along with your observations Larry's decline while still champion was highlighted against Carl Williams also. He had really slown down by then and changed his style to try and compensate but losing to Spinks in his next fight wasn't a suprise if you had seen that fight. Against Bey before the William's go he already looked like a shadow of how good he had been.
     
  10. AlFrancis

    AlFrancis Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Would you include Danny Lopez? He had a history of getting knocked down and then roaring back.
     
  11. TheMikeLake

    TheMikeLake Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I was going to include the Carl Williams fight too, but that was purely based on looking at boxrec because I hadn't seen the fight, so I had no idea about the scorecards being correct or not in the fight. Thanks for adding this.

    Incidentally I didn't want to start a new thread just for this question - is the Oliver McCall-Larry Holmes fight worth watching. I also saw this was a one round scorecard.

    Thanks.