What is the best way to handle the windmills?

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  1. Max Thunder

    Max Thunder Proud member of the Cult of Vikings Full Member

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    When Wilder hurts his opponent it always means that the winds will be a-blowing. Stiverne just stood there and it didn't work. Washington didn't know what to do. Ortiz tried to clinch and even fight them out bravely but couldn't make it either. Is there any way to beat the windmills?
     
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  2. Wass1985

    Wass1985 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Go to Holland......
     
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  3. Infern0121

    Infern0121 Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Punch with him with shorter more accurate power shots.

    He will get Khan-Garcia'd one day don't worry
     
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  4. Southpawswitch

    Southpawswitch Active Member Full Member

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    40-0. There is no blueprint.
     
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  5. Lith

    Lith Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's why he only barely got past a 39 year old 3 inches shorter and 6 inches shorter reach than himself who was only just cleared to fight.

    What would have happened if a man with the exact same skill level and game plan came in with 5 years more youth on his side, ignoring the height and reach advantage?

    Now what happens if a crazy gypsy who is 5 inches taller, 9 years younger, an even longer reach, and more technically cunning guy comes along?

    We'll find out how to dismantle the windmills sooner or later, I'm pretty confident.
     
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  6. MeatFeastMan

    MeatFeastMan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Windmills are random swings. Movement is key. There's only really one heavyweight who has the movement required to avoid those swings entirely and that's Tyson Fury. With Greg Marriott doing his diet, he'll be back to normal weight in no time and in very good shape. If that's the case, he will have the movement and brains to avoid those swings. But there's also whether Tyson can keep it up for 12 rounds. It's all good avoiding those swings for a minute or two, but you have to predict them and keep switched on for 12 whole rounds while having the stamina to keep it up as well.

    As you mentioned, fighting them out is an answer. If you just weather the storm and continue to pressure wilder, he will eventually stop throwing them. Ortiz almost managed it, but wasn't physically strong enough to bully wilder. AJ can bully wilder, he is so much more physically imposing than Ortiz is. When Joshua gets Wilder in a clinch, AJ wins the clinches 150% of the time and wilder won't be able to deal with it.

    I also have a sneaky feeling that knockdown that Klitschko pulled off was so perfect that it was a one-off. I actually think AJ has a better chin than Ortiz now, especially with the increased strength and conditioning since turning pro. He will be able to deal with Wilder's windmills, but he has to finish Wilder in the first half of the fight, otherwise those windmills will take their toll late on.
     
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  7. splatter69

    splatter69 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Close the distance. The power on those come at almost full extension and there are a lot of hits to the back of the head. The guy has super long arms. Shuffle in close with hard jabs and grab his lanky ass. Be wary of an uppercut. When you are holding with one arm work the other one free and test that skinny body.
     
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  8. GlassJoe

    GlassJoe 1-99 TBE Full Member

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    The problem with the windmills is that for some reason it's just accepted that because they look like punches that they are legitimate. They aren't. Most of the punches which fell Ortiz were punches to the back of the neck and head. Never mind throwing Ortiz to the mat and the ref doing nothing, even after noticing that Ortiz was exhausted from it.
     
  9. RealDeal

    RealDeal Pugilist Specialist Full Member

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    How would the Mayweather shoulder roll work against those?
     
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  10. Toneye

    Toneye New Member banned Full Member

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    That's a non puncher even by cruiserweight standard. When Wilder touches Fury on that glass chin of his. Do I need to say more?
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  11. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Lateral motion? Keep turning him.
     
  12. PolicemanPrawn

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    Pretend you are hurt, causing Wilder to charge in recklessly, giving you the opportunity to land a counter.
     
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  13. willcross

    willcross Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Before Wilder charges at you, he will wiggle his eyebrows. If you hit him in the stomach at just the right moment, its an instant KO.
     
  14. Mr Icaman

    Mr Icaman 32-0 WBC Champ, Ring + Lineal HW Champ Full Member

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    Sta out of their way.. Easier said than done...

    Only way I see him going down is by misjudging how hurt someone is and getting tagged rushing in... Ortiz nearly pulled it off..
     
  15. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Nobody is safe from the windmills