What Is The Logic To Pac/Arum Refusing to Take Blood Within 24 Days of The Fight?

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    So should have all of the first fighters just not agree to urine testing? Couldn't a fighter now say, before 19XX there was no urine testing. I won't do it? :huh
     
  2. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Ok, good answer.

    But if it were 24 days. Then that middle to end phase would be bad, too, right? So wouldn't that be some what of a problem, too?

    Lance Armstrong took viles of test during The Tour De France. Usian Bolte did immediately before and broke a record. Armstrong was even made to give a test and clear his name when his wife was in labor.

    Does it really affect Manny that much?
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    That is possibly the most ******ed statement that I have ever read on this subject so far. Congrats.

    Arum and company have already said that if the Commission stepped in and demanded blood testing during the ringwalk then they would do it. The problem is that this isn't the commission... this is Floyd Mayweather and his ridiculous ego trying to completely alter testing in a way that has never been done before in the history of professional boxing. Your "point" becomes even more ******ed when you consider the fact that Pac even agreed to take **** tests EVERY SINGLE day as well as give blood 3 times. He wouldn't agree to that if he was worrying about hiding something. The blood test right after the fight would be plenty by itself. As would a blood test 24 days from the fight. It isn't as if Manny just juices up for the 14th proceeding the fight or something. It's absolutely absurd that the Mayweather's are trying so hard to prevent this fight. If he really thought he was the best, he would just being going in under normal testing rules and proving that he is better than Pac in the ring. Let alone still not agreeing to **** tests everyday along with 3 different blood tests.

    Explain to me... why does Pac's team have to keep bending and agreeing? Especially when we are talking about **** that has NEVER been asked of ANY fighter in the history of boxing. THIS IS PATHETIC! I have plenty of friends that are huge Mayweather fans that are completely embarrassed with his actions. That's because they have common sense.
     
  4. luciuslim

    luciuslim Well-Known Member Full Member

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    i think the clottey fight will be competitive and entertaining for about 4 rounds, then clottey will slow down and manny will speed up, manny will slowley break clottey and stop him in 11 or 12, the only thing that i think can carry clottey the full 12 is his toghness and that might not be enough.
     
  5. greatone

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    Had Floyd just signed when the fight was presented, none of this would even matter. Every time the fans want Floyd to fight a real contender he starts with the excuses. Remember there was no money with cotto and Mosley had too many losses and he just completely side stepped Margo after he calmly asked mayweather at an event why wouldn't he fight him. Floyd's response was down the line this fight will be bigger (check youtube).
     
  6. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    No... They don't take blood that soon directly before an Olympic event. Sorry... but that is a misconception.

    Once again... of course, this blood testing is going to be an unneeded thorn in Pac's side one way or another. Which is why Floyd is doing it. Some people have a problem with needles and giving blood... some people don't. Simple as that. However... I am sure that 24 days before the fight would feel better for Pac than 14 days from the fight. Simply because mentally he would feel better about it. Haven't you ever heard of boxing being 90% mental? Why do you think Floyd is doing this? Do you honestly think that he feels like he is going to catch Pac coming up dirty? Of course NOT... he is doing this to flex his ego and get into Pac's head.

    Besides all of this nonsense.... Urine tests are just as proven as blood tests... and he has agreed to give urine tests every single day. People who are doping don't just agree to **** like that. There would NO WAY IN HELL, for Pac to hide doping in his urine every single day. Let alone 3 different blood tests including one directly after the fight.
     
  7. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    How much before. Correct me then. I'm sure if you get specific you'll realize how 14-24 days is no where near what they do in the Olympics.

    Yes, I heard boxing is 90% mental.

    I just trapped you, though. Pac got his blood taken 24 days before the fight for diseases and infections before the Hatton fight. I don't think it affected Pac... remember how that one ended?

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kbmqay72a6o[/ame]

    By the way, do you know how much blood they draw? You make it sound like a ton. It's just a little tint of blood. Less than what was taken in that video (I believe).

    Not true, already gone over. Clutching at straws.
     
  8. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No you just don't follow logic. The first group of boxers subjected to urine testing could make the same illogical argument you are making. "Nobody has done it before why should I?" There are 20-40 million reasons why you should! :deal

    That BS from Arum means nothing. He would have IMMEDIATELY said ALL matches need the testing knowing damn well that the commission doesn't have the funds to do so. **** testing is pointless. There are a long list of cheating athletes who beat it.

    What has team Pac compromised on? Team Mayweather gave in to EVERYTHING. The only thing Team Mayweather asked for was testing. Manny had tons of excuses

    Manny is a fraud.
     
  9. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Urine does it all, eh? And about that cutoff date...

     
  10. But who are you to say it's not a mental disadvantage? PAC spends much of his life in church, others dont. Some people have superstitions. Indians dont eats cows. Point is, it's for me your you to say how somebody else should feel about giving blood.
     
  11. TonyPeri

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    Perfectly said.
     
  12. TonyPeri

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    I hate the fact that you might be right.
     
  13. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Because Pac said so, and Roach said he was fine with anything after 5 days.

    Next.
     
  14. TonyPeri

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    I'm a Pac fan, but I don't give a **** if he's scared of needles. Are you kidding? If he doesn't take those tests, everything he's accomplished will fall into question. It already has. They sound like liars. I can't believe it.
     
  15. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Thanks, I tried. This just sucks.