What Is The Logic To Pac/Arum Refusing to Take Blood Within 24 Days of The Fight?

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  1. bald_head_slick

    bald_head_slick Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Then runs around in public with women other than his wife... :yep

    Not that it matters, but please check that religion and honor ish at the door and talk boxing. :thumbsup
     
  2. liger05

    liger05 puroresu fan 4 life!! Full Member

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    There is no logic. 14 days is fine. Pacquiao and his team have no excuse to turn down 14 day cut off period.
     
  3. bollocks

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    The same group of boxers can argue that since no Olympian was caught using HGH, that the blood testing does not work and is just a waste of time. Urine testing should catch majority of PEDs.

    There are 20-40 million reasons why Floyd should accept what Pac is offering i.e. 24 day cut off for blood testing

    No olympic athlete was caught using HGH using blood tests yet; I also don't know of any athletes caught with HGH using blood testing. Since urine testing caught a lot of athletes using steroids, it is still a better way in catching PEDs and blood testing next to useless.

    Mayweather chose the dates and gave Pacquiao two options that I believe are cheeky: March is too close to the Cotto fight (Pac is still healing from his injuries hence won't be able to spar in the 1st week or so of his training) and the May date is too close to the Philippine elections. With regards to venue, Mayweather wanted to fight in Vegas instead of Dallas even though the fight will earn more in gate receipts in Dallas. Both parties mutually agreed on the purse split and the glove size so I don't see that as a compromise made by either parties.
     
  4. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    Yes, and I wonder why nobody in the media is addressing this.
     
  5. grimlocked

    grimlocked Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly. That's why if Pac has to make a concession, it's 24 days and not 14 days.
     
  6. boxbox

    boxbox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Bottomline, i think both parties agree that March is too soon to promote this superfight.

    They got so eager in making this, and reality-wise, it was just too soon to do. Promotion, venues, undercards, etc...all because boxing is out to prove that all those rumors about MMC overtaking boxing are all it really is..just rumors.
     
  7. afromagus

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    so whats wrong with pac wanting his blood test 24 days before, and then immediately after? and then theres the unlimited urine testing

    so if manny takes ped 40-30 days before the fight, and this takes 3 weeks to clear, thats 31-21 days.. 17 - 7 days before the fight, the ped is out of his system, cant detect it.

    blood testing done within 24 days of the fight has a chance of detecting ped, whereas 14 days - hmm has less chance.. not to mention blood testing immediately after, backed up urine testing throughout.

    really manny is being more than reasonable.
     
  8. grimlocked

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    Shut up. You make too much sense :D
     
  9. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Are you slow?

    You don't understand the difference between commission rules and Floyd Mayweather contract demands?:rofl Quite a bit different isn't it? If the commission set up a rule that all fighters must give blood 30 days before a fight... then all fighters would give blood 30 days before a fight. This has nothing to due with the rules of the commission... which is who's rules require the urine testing for ALL BOXERS, not just Manny. The point here is that FLOYD is demanding something of Pac that has not been asked of ANY PROFESSIONAL BOXER IN HISTORY. This isn't something that is asked for by the commission. It isn't like the Commissions are all going to start requiring 3 blood tests for every fight just because Floyd Mayweather is trying to make Manny do it. Is that difficult for you to understand? I sure as hell hope not for your sake.

    If Mayweather really wanted to fight Pac... he wouldn't make ridiculous demands. He would just fight him. Obviously he doesn't feel like 30 or 40 million dollars is worth the risk of a loss.
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Floyd and his team have no excuse to turn down a 24 day cut off period.
     
  11. afromagus

    afromagus Member Full Member

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    Mayweather .. greatest ducker of all time! QUACK! QUACK! RUN!
     
  12. PetethePrince

    PetethePrince Slick & Redheaded Full Member

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    That's actually a good post.

    But, with 3 random tests. He could test 24 days out, then 14 days out, then after the fight. Technically I believe.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Bull****.

    Here is what's funny. I actually like both fighters. I don't have anything against either of them, and I am not a huge fan of either. I have absolutely no vested interested in who wins this fight. To be honest, I would rather see Pac vs Marquez III, and Floyd vs Mosley. I think that Floyd is posisbly too big for Pac, simply because of Floyd's style. He's a naturally very fast counterpuncher. Given the fits that Marquez gave Pac (and I felt JMM won both of their fights)... I think that Floyd will cause all sorts of problems for him. That's why I can call it like I see it... because I don't sit on one side of the fence like you guys do. Even when I am a fan of a fighter, I still tell it like it is. You aren't a fan of Pac, because you are giving into this complete bull**** ploy by Team Mayweather that is completely unprecedented. Why should Manny be subject to testing like no other professional fighter in history has? Just because Floyd's daddy once said in an interview that Manny must be on steroids to beat Cotto like that? It's absurd and anyone with a brain can realize that.

    Anyone who knows me knows that I'm a HUGE Oscar De La Hoya fan... if anything I would be hating Pac for the beating that he laced on him... and the possibility that he was on steroids/doping if I wanted to go along with this nonsense. It's unreasonable to put that label on somebody just because they are so good. Pathetic if you want to be honest.
     
  14. papolamuerte

    papolamuerte Yo soy La Muerte! Full Member

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    Thats exactly what Ive been saying all along, why does this fight have to be different than any other fight in the history of boxing and not one of the PBF fans can reply back to that. :huh Forget about the accusations about Pac and roids you know. And you like you said there, take his blood right after the fight, if it comes back dirty then you have a case because its not like if he is dirty before the fight all of the sudden after the fight he is going to be clean right? :huh

    I dont know how anyone would back PBF on this one, its really hard for me to understand the logic behind that. :huh
     
  15. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    So then he would have to give 3 blood test within virtually 3 weeks time (24 days)? FFS, that is completely unheard of.