What is the point of lying about PPV numbers?

lol " A Bob Arum Guy" has to comment on a thread about lying.

 

Why do you care so much about numbers in the first place? The amount of attention PPV figures get is so disproportional it's unreal.

 

the only ones who care about PPV numbers are insecure *****s and *******s

 

Mayweather uses it as a leverage in negotiations but in Pacquiao's case, to make it as his (Floyd)reason not to fight Pac.

 

I actually hope every single PPV event falls short, so we can get rid of that crap.

Back to the days when all fights were on free tv channels, or premium channels at least. Then the viewing numbers will go up again (massively), and boxing can maybe even return to be a mainstream sport.

 

deal

 

The Mayweather/Ortiz numbers came in 2 months after the fight and it did 1.2 million buys.

 

Before PPV, there was closed circuit boxing matches which I believe have been around since the forties. Boxing fans have paid to see high quality championship fights for a long time. The problem today is that we are fed fights that are not worthy of ppv status but being fans, we pay for these fights even though they should be on premium television at best.

 

Again, I don't expect idiots like you to understand or comprehend numbers in general never mind simple boxing PPV numbers. These numbers are very important to look into, analyze and discuss because viewing these numbers you would know what future fights are possible and what are not. Better yet, when numbers appear lower than expected there will be a lot of pressure on a big name fighter, Mayweather for example, to fight a live fan friendly opponent rather than a handpicked safe one.

Why do you think numbers can be delayed, exaggerated or even completely lied about?. Because the people releasing these numbers know that experts or fans with brains will analyze such numbers and predict what future fights to expect. Why did the UFC lie for years about their PPV earnings?, to make Boxing look bad and many fans bought into it and brag about these numbers to this very day. Sure numbers may be meaningless to simpletons but in general they're very important. Don't expect Mayweather to rematch Maidana if the PPV numbers for the first fight were really(as the rumors suggest) low, see how it was easy to guess why Mayweather won't fight Maidana again thanks to the PPV numbers?

 

I remember seeing Hearns v Leonard 1, Hagler v Hearns and Hagler v Leonard closed circuit at the theater and everyone in the audience felt they got more than their moneys worth. Back in those days the closed circuit matches were infrequent but when there was one, it was worth the money. Nowadays with all these belts and sanctioning bodies, the quality of televised boxing is diluted and we have to pay to see fights that should be on ESPN. Closed circuit boxing matches used to be an event, now promoters want to put barroom fights on ppv.

 

I disagree, despite Floyd-Maidana doing worse than expected numbers, they will make a rematch because nobody gave Chino a chance to win a single round, much less make Floyd work for the W for the first time in ages, people might buy into Chino giving him a hard fight a second time around

personally I don't give a **** about PPV numbers, both Floyd and Pac have done lower than expected numbers in their last fights, and the fans still wont get what they want, it has no relevence to who they will fight next, Pac will face Marquez a fifth time, Bradley a third time or Alvarado, and Floyd will pick an Al Haymon fighter