What is the real deal with Riddick Bowe, anyway?

You're a piece of ****, aren't you.

 

bowe never got kfto as you put it as pro but lewis knocked his ass out as ametures thats why he ducked him as pro

 

I thought it was prematurely stopped in the final, personally. Bowe didn't even go down.

 

? why would it matter if he was american? his prime as it was called was only a few fights,

 

I think the Zumbrun fight was, even if he won't admit it, a nasty shock to Bowe.

He'd come back in Sept '04 with an easy TKO2 against Marcus Rhode, always a handy have-gloves-will-travel guy, and thought it would be simple going. Then the following April gets clearly buzzed badly by Zumbrun.

Since then the only other fight has been the Gene Pulkis (sp?) one, a rather routine and dull points decision against an opponent firmly on the bottom rung.

Much like far too much of his career, I think Bowe just doesn't have the focus or dedication these days to make the most of what he's got left as a boxer. And the wars with Holyfield and Bowe meant there wasn't all that much left as it was.

 

But that's just the thing. The so called wars with Holyfield. Why didn't John Ruiz get ruined after a 3 fight Holyfield series? Where's the permanent damage? Where's any damage?

Lewis is taken over the coals for 2 ko losses. Yet he went 24 rounds with Evander. Certainly there should be some residual damage, right?

The fact is Holyfield is not that big of a puncher at heavyweight and his ko's are few and far between. Lots of guys absorbed from him thru the years and just why shouldn't a Bowe be able to?

As for Golata, what top fighter did he ever stop anyway? What exactly is the best ko on his resume? Since Golate does not have a who' who list of ko victims,isn't it reasonable to suggest Bowe should've been able to absorb from the guy and not show damage during the fight but post fight permanent damage? He's the guy on the other end of things usually with a ko by result. How come after 2 fights with Bowe we didn't see that result?

 

Yeah bowe is really overrated he had no idea how to use his natural advantages.. In the holy fight i swear to god he had no idea how to fight tall instead he gets in side with a smaller man? Why keep him at tehe end of your jab. igf i remember right holy was even outboxing him at a distance.

 

Well I don't give Lewis a get out of jail free card for getting ko'd twice. And I sure don't give one to Bowe for not being able to absorb punches from Evander Holyfield.

 

First of all comparing two fighters in their respective primes going to war like Bowe and Holy did to Evander Holyfield wrestling with John Ruiz, is not even in the stratosphere of reality.
Second, fighters are different. Not all brains and bodies react the same from getting trauma. All those factors considered along with Bowe's lack of conditioning and usual routine of ballooning up to high weights between fights and melting himself back down in training only made his journey to shotsville that much shorter.
The body needs to be maintained and treated the same way a car has to. The more you abuse it the more its going to breakdown, and Bowe just abused the hell out of himself.

 

Maybe because Bowes a great infighter and basically beat up Holyfield in the first fight by fighting in close quarters?
Why doesnt Paul Williams fight tall, Why didnt Diego Corrales fight tall??
Some guys dont use their height at all. Bowe certainly showed more ability to use his height than these two guys I mentioned, but he was also an excellent infighter.

 

Bowe had three wars with Holyfield, got murdered in two fights when he was shot against a killer in Andrew Golota, and took a lot of shots on his way to the title. What the hell is the point of your post anyway? Bowe declined quicker than most because he got hit regularly and he lost his appetite for training. It's no an excuse, look at the film. He was grossely overweight for the Holyfield rematch.

I'll ask you again, what is the point of your post?

 

Infighter against a fighter who had no chance of beating him at a range.. Problem with that is Holy was beating him at range so Bowes overall boxing skill is way overrated when he has height and reach and cannot outbox a smaller man at range. paul williams is a volume puncher and if you dont think his size dictates his style you are crazy he doesnt really fight close he fights at mid range corrales lost quite a few by not being able to use his height. There is an old saying that people fight on he inside because they dont have the ability to win at range.. so does Bowe fall into that category?

 

He NEVER could have beat Vitali anyway. Bowe is one of the most overrated Heavyweights in the history of the division.

 

I agree with you 100%. Golota got his name by beating the crap out of Bowe, who was overrated to begin with.

 

Holyfield was a master technician and an ATG. Using him as a barometer to downplay Bowes boxing ability is a joke. What other "tall" heavyweights outboxed a prime Holyfield??? He could close the gap against anyone at his best.
Bowe could more than hang with all of them from the outside, he just had another dimension to his game called infighting and liked to be aggressive and fight inside because he was usually better than most of his opponents at it, including Holyfield which was proven in three fights.
What does Willaims being a volume puncher have to do with him not using his height to his advantage, he is tall and doesnt fight that way correct?
Never heard of that "old sang", because it doesnt exist. Styles are different, fighters may choose to fight a certain way, but anyone with the height and reach of a Paul Williams could easily use it to his advantage a lot more than he does, and it would certainly be a lot easier than trying to outpunch his opponent. His jab is non existent.
Go watch some Bowe fights leading up to his title shot against Holyfield. You'll more than see a fighter with all the tools including an excellent jab which setup his big righthand which was a big part of his offense.