What is the referee warning Lewis for here?

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  1. reznick

    reznick In the 7.2% Full Member

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    Keeping his arm extended? What the heck?
     
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  2. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    For... Uhh....
     
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  3. Thread Stealer

    Thread Stealer Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mercante Jr sucks. He won’t stop enforcing the rule of “no talking” or **** like this, but stands there when Pernell Whitaker almost killed Diobleys Hurtado.

    Or decides to ignore Yuri Foreman’s corner when they want to stop the fight, because “Yuri was giving a good show for the fans”
     
  4. Mario040481

    Mario040481 Member Full Member

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    It seems like something that is relatively new. I've seen quite lot of older fights where a fighter will hold it all the way out, I think Foreman maybe one of the guys I am thinking of, like mummy fashion, completely extended with elbow locked, nearly and for many seconds with nothing said. I do not remember the fight, but it was one I think that was somewhat recently (like in the last twentyish years?) where the ref repeatedly said to a fighter trying to do that "You gotta use it or put it away."
     
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  5. Kamikaze

    Kamikaze Bye for now! banned Full Member

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    Silly rule if it is one at all, stiff arming has been a tactic from the bygone age to the current era and is a staple of many greats we look up to.
     
  6. Cecil

    Cecil Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Is it actually a rule?
    As long as the fighter isn’t fouling his opponent in some way why should it be an issue?
     
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  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    There's a lot worse thing s to do in a boxing match than this..
     
  9. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    A ref can warn against literally anything that is not “punching with the knuckle part of the glove with sufficient force at the target”. Holding, posing, talking, punching with the wrong part of the glove or doing anything that isn’t correct punching is technically a foul and not within the rules.

    clinching is a foul. A certain amount of discretion is used in practice since fighters will tangle together...but a lot of people incorrectly believe it is within the rules to hold, it is not.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    I'd rather see boxers hold their arm out which I feel is a stylistic choice than a lot of other things. Besides if you really want to get clever, hook at the elbow a few times and see how they like it.
     
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  11. choklab

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    It can stall the action if the other guy doesn’t hook his arm out of the way though.

    I remember ridiculous moments in a fight once where first one would extend one arm then both men extended one arm each mimicking each other without punching for long periods of a round.
     
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  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    It's called measuring, and refs usually enforce this. It's been a thing for a long time actually, and rightfully in my opinion. I don't know if it's an official rule though. They do it in amateurs too.

    Lewis' 'measure' here wasn't really bad at all though. I've seen much more blatant ones.
     
  13. choklab

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    measuring is where a punch comes out after the measuring. Like Holmes used to do. Particularly against Marvis Frazier. Hand on the head, hit with the other one. And Worthy of a warning.

    This is unnecessary extending. Like fencing for an opening. No punch comes from it. And also worthy of a warning.
     
  14. McGrain

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    Haning the jab was something Lewis had trouble for throughout his career. It was even the major warning he received before the Tyson fight, in the dressing room during referee's instructions. Then Wlad picked up on it of course.

    It is a bit much. You couldn't do it without enormous reach because you would just get boom-boomed. I'm happy to see warnings given out for it.
     
  15. choklab

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    I agree. I think It should be warned against.

    I think Klitschko took it to the next level. And was allowed to do it on home ground. Against AJ it was less evident.
     
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