What is the strategic advantage of a low guard?

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  1. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    Joshua had a really low guard vs Dubois and Fury often used a low guard vs Usyk. I understand this can help defend body shots and can also be used to set up up jabs. But does that really justify keeping your hands low so much of the time?

    Fury needs to employ a high guard. Low guard doesn't work vs a super skilled guy like Usyk.
     
  2. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    It opens your opponent up and encourages them to lead due to them thinking you’re open, as a result opening them up for potential counters.

    Mike Gibbons is probably the best example of a fighter with a very low guard, he did it purposefully to get his opponent to think he was open when in reality he was using his low hand placement for bait to counter.
     
  3. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    It opens up different angles, changes where your punches are delivered from, changes how and where you move your head to, changes how you use your hands and shoulders to guard, catch, and parry (this is still done in a low guard). There’s a few that could branch off into many more by themselves, not to mention stuff im unaware of or not thinking of!

    Often times a high guard fighter struggles to see jabs from the low

    There are many pros and cons to it, like almost any technique, it’s mostly situational (who’s using it, who’s the opponent, whatre they both doing, what’s working, what’s not).

    For AJ… I struggle to see when its ever useful… he’s never done well with it to my knowledge… sound cliche - but he’s too stiff for it…
     
  4. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    It's a more dynamic guard which can make parrying easier if you're talented in that art, few are these days. It's generally spookier so feints are easier if you're going to feint. The angles are very unexpected on your counters, so if you're going to slip and counter you can really maximise the return against many opponents. Finally and this is the real truth I feel in modern boxing, you can wear a low guard but move the guard into place. Modern gloves are enormous and popping your guard can ruin all types of plans your opponent might make based on your low guard. I'd love to know what the numbers are for punches very high on the head, I get the feeling there would be many more such punches thrown these days but I can't prove it.
     
  5. Russell

    Russell Loyal Member Full Member

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    I'm having Kirkland Laing flashbacks.
     
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  6. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    نزال القرن مع فيوري ضد اوزيك | Ring of fire FURY vs USYK - YouTube

    Look at 19:07 - 19:10. When Usyk nails him with that big left.

    I understand your arguments but if a guy is quick handed and highly skilled like Usyk, kind of hard to bait him into thinking you are open and then countering him. Fury would have blocked that with a high guard.
     
  7. Melankomas

    Melankomas Corbett beats your favourite fighter

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    Fury’s reflexes are also pretty shot compared to when he was younger, it also probably isn’t too wise to have a low guard against a smaller faster opponent as it is a reflex-based form of defense and countering. That being said, it was also a bit advantageous for Fury throughout the early half due to keeping Usyk constantly guessing with his bizarre guard. He just isn’t quick enough to utilize it as effectively anymore.
     
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  8. Boxing2019

    Boxing2019 If you want peace, prepare war. banned Full Member

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    Joshua thought to be Mayweather, Ali or Roy Jones and to have their reflexes.
     
  9. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Makes you more unpredictable, relaxed, and saves energy.
     
  10. chairmanpow

    chairmanpow New Member Full Member

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    It gives you much better vision so you can see punches easier and move your head better. It also creates an awkward angle for your opponent so its harder for them to see your punches, and it makes counter punching easier. And finally its a more relaxed guard so it conserves more energy as opposed to a high guard
     
  11. Mike_b

    Mike_b Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Isn't an up jab deceptive because you can't see the punch coming from your peripheral vision? And also a taller fighter can lower his hands to better suit his shorter adversary without punching downward
     
  12. Rollin

    Rollin Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It makes your punching lanes more tricky, gears your body mechanics towards head movement, and constantly draws punches. Generally speaking. Lots of nuance to various guards.

    Also, less energy consuming.
     
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  13. like a boss

    like a boss have gloves will travel Full Member

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    With the Philly Shell defence you keep your left glove low and protect your body by wrapping your left arm around your body. The left hand side of your jaw is protected with either your right glove or by tucking your chin firmly into your left shoulder.
     
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  14. Samart'sTeep

    Samart'sTeep Well-Known Member Full Member

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    From my experience, it also makes you a little bit faster and smoother with your feet as well as your upperbody movement. The human arms weigh approximately 6.5% of a person's total weight and keeping that weight high up does slow you down a little bit. But, of course, keeping your hands down comes at the price of completely sacrificing your guard if your first line of defense (your footwork) gets breached.
     
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  15. northpaw

    northpaw Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I personally do not believe there is any strategic advantage to a low guard. I think it's very irresponsible tbh