What is the vendetta this site has against Tony Galento???

Just as well the proposed fight between Sonny Liston and that “other” Chamberlain guy, Richard, didn’t come off.

Dr Kildare’s delicate hands look absolutely tiny compared to Liston’s oversized mitts.

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You’re barking up the wrong tree here.

Neville Chamberlain would have appeased Ali, who would play him like a fiddle and grab all the title claims.

Neville also would have acquiesced to Liston, folding like a cheap pup tent.

 

Neville was known for getting ahead of himself, prone to premature celebration of perceived “victory”.

An absolute paper Champ he was.

Have we run out of Chamberlains yet?

I’ve got Lindy in my back pocket but haven’t yet figured out how to reasonably work her into the discussion.

 

Tony Galento fought a lot of rounds, and had a lot of late stoppages, for a guy that never trained.
A lot of boxing fans, for reasons unknown to me, attach an importance to amateur boxing- they often point to a long amateur career as a sign of somebody being more well educated technically. And Georgie Garcia, from Phoenix, was 5'9" and 260 and an Olympic alternate. Where did his pro career go? Georgie, when he turned pro, with modern nutrition and advanced training, could barely do 6 rounds. But fat, lazy Tony, trained by guys that knew nothing about boxing or conditioning fighters, fought hundreds and hundreds of pro rounds, challenged for a world title and had a long and successful career when there was only one top ten ranking. Georgie never made a top ten list in a time where there were at least 4 top ten lists out there for every division.

 

Well, all I can say is that he’s not THIS thinking man’s GOAT.

I also doubt that anyone has put as much thinking as I have needed to do in order to conclude Ingo to be the GOAT.

It’s always the thought that counts.

 

To some degree, this topic reminds me of ‘Moneyball,’ which is a movie (and book) about how the Oakland A’s kind of revolutionized Major League Baseball because they had to assemble a competitive roster year after year while having the lowest (or in a few cases second-lowest) payroll.

They had to learn to scout players differently and leaned heavily into data and metrics while the traditional ‘rich’ teams did it by the old methods — sizing guys up in large part by how much they did or didn’t look the part, valuing stats that didn’t translate to winning. In very, very simple terms they leaned into players who took more walks, struck out less and had higher on-base percentages rather than hitting for average or for power. A lot of their misfits were the ‘wrong’ size or body type even though to the really trained eye their statistics said they had greater value than a lot of high-priced players who fit the mold.

Tony Galento doesn’t look like what people want a top fighter to look like (too short, too fat) — so they ignore the actual results and instead go off eye test. Case in point: over a large sample of fights (including against some good competition), stamina never seemed to be a problem for him, yet he looks out of shape so people judge that rather than how he actually held up over the longer fights in his career (which indicates stamina wasn’t an issue).

Not an ATG, but the results suggest he’d be competitive in any era.

 

Chamberlain was great and would still be great or at least very good today. But not what he was in the 60 s. He’s not scoring 100 he’s not averaging 50 a game. Why because Basketball players are much better now then they were then.
When Wilt first came into the league he had 1 good player to got up against:Russel. A decade later the number of good centers grew to half dozen or more. Any football baseball basketball fan worth their salt knows this. Its boxing where the nostalgia runs wild with not all but many.

 

Probably a bit to do with how loved Dempsey is and how he felt about Tony.

 

Exactly! Casual fans want to be entertained. Knowledgeable fans want interesting matchups, good skills, and entertainment. Boxing needs both types of fans in order to survive and flourish.

 

LMAO!! In some ways Galento was the "Butterbean" of his era!!

 

Didnt Ray Arcel say that an old Dempsey whooped Tony's ass and booted him outta Gleason's gym because he was a lazy bum? Maybe that's why because the respected old-timers throw a lot of shade at him