What is Vitlai Klitschko’s most impressive boxing stastics?

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  1. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    I know. It’s funny. Peter is their hope for now. Let them hype Peter to the moon. As soon as Vitlai TKO's Peter, they will turn on him quicker than a poisonous cobra who has escaped from his cage.

    In the meantime Vitlai owns three records at heavyweight....best KO%, one of two hewavyweight champs never to be floored from a punch, and never being down on the cards after 3 rounds in any fight.

    If Vitali beats Peter, add the come at age 36+ back after a 4+ year layoff to his legacy. Such a feat has only been done by Foreman, and he lost his first two world title matches to Holyfield, and Morrison before catching a chinny Moorer.

    Not to worry, I won't forget to pour some gravy on the crow for some of these haters to eat.
     
  2. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    Keep in mind, that you are just as apt to getting a shower from the gravy train as everybody else. If Klitschko gets his ass handed to him by Peter, people here ( not necessarily myself ) will have a field day.
     
  3. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    I don't want to keep repeating the same things to each other. I only ask that you start using the actual facts when you are posting. I am not exaggerating, and if your agrument is strong.. you don't need to either.

    I didn't read the entire post, because I don't have time to respond right now. I only read the first part. Once again... your facts are incorrect. Within the 3 years before fighting Vitali, Lennox had actually knocked out Botha and Grant as well as the one's you mentioned. 3 1/2 years before, he beat Holyfield to become undisputed Champion. If you think that Lewis was that unimpressive during those 3 years... which is actually the only time in his career when he was considered a true Champion. Then you must not hold Lewis in very high regard. Let's not forget that Lewis wasn't the real Champion until he beat Holyfield. Every fight that you are downgrading Lewis on was every single fight after he finally became a true Champion. I agree... he wasn't a very dominant Champion. I never said he was.

    So, if Lewis was that subpar after he beat Holyfield to become the Champion... and managed to fight through the 90's without facing any of the top 5 heavyweights in their prime. You must come to the conclusion that Lewis simply didn't have a very impressive career.
     
  4. RUSKULL

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    I would gladly take that chance since I can't see Peter causing Vitali too many problems.

    Soomebody teach that guy to throw straight punches already!!! :yep
     
  5. Mendoza

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    These haters have their day maybe once every three to four years or so when Klitschko looses. The last time it happened was 2004! Oher that that its fantasy stuff. Both Klitschko’s have been #1 guys on every 3rd party ranking system. I think these haters are for the most part stuck in misery.

    Vitlai is older. If he losses, it is the rust and age, not the ability...but I don't think he'll lose at all! In fact, Vitlai will have an easy fight vs Peter. If Vitlai beats Peter, and Wlad wins again as expected, it will be a #1 and #2 ranking, with both Klits being champions.

    We won't forget the gravy.....
     
  6. JAHamilton77

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    Vitali's amazing # of fight cancellations due to injury.
     
  7. mr. magoo

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    I am sticking to facts. I clearly said later in my post that Lewis's only two fights within 26 months of facing Vitali between April of 2001 to June of 2003, were Mike Tyson and Hasim Rahman. As for the first part of my post, I left out Botha whom he fought 3 years earlier, and he actually fought Grant earlier that Spring of 2000, which actually exceeds three years.

    Here is the boxrec link, so that we don't have to keep repeating ourselves.

    http://www.boxrec.com/list_bouts.php?human_id=1853&cat=boxer
     
  8. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    You said....

    That was false. I didn't read any further than that, because it is the same stuff, back and forth.

    However, I brought up a new point... what is your answer?
     
  9. mr. magoo

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    You make it sound as though you're convinced that Vitali will come back and pick up right where he left off.
     
  10. TFFP

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    Quitting against Byrd was most impressive :rofl :rofl

    What a joker.
     
  11. Mendoza

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    He doesn't need to be 100% of what he was to defeat Peter. 80% is enough. Yes, I have seen clips of Vitlai''s come back in the gym, and heard from the media who saw him spar say he was in good form prior to the injury. The speed, power and snap are still there. It might take him a round to two to shake off the rust, but Peter is a slow starter.

    Vitali looks good for his age, is in shape, and has sparred 100's of rounds since. I think he'll do just fine. He might opt to slug a bit more and throw less punches.
     
  12. mr. magoo

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    I also ackonowledged that I forgot Botha, and that Grant came a bit earlier in the spring of 2000. Go back and take a look at it. And no, I don't have a low opinion of Lewis nor think that he was among the best. He was a good champion past his prime when he fought Klitschko, nothing more.
     
  13. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Vitali did look pretty sharp. There is a short clip of some of his training from last year. However, I think what made Vitali so good was his great reflexes. That will be the key. We won't know how great his reflexes are until he fights. By the time that he fights, he probably will have been out of the ring for 4 years.
     
  14. WiDDoW_MaKeR

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    Well, your time frame couldn't extend past a couple months?:lol: It's getting silly. You talk about how active he was in those 3 years.

    However, from April of 2000 until they fought each other. BOTH of them fought an equal amount of times. 6 times each. Even within your exactly 3 year time frame... they each fought 5 times before meeting each other. You are working off of flawed logic.
     
  15. Marciano Frazier

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    First, I suspect you don't actually want people's votes on which is the most impressive, but rather are using this poll as a vehicle for touting Klitschko's statistics. They are all obviously impressive, but they're also strongly aided by the fact that Vitali fought only two genuine top-five-level opponents (Byrd and Lewis), one of whom was 37 years old, hadn't fought in over a year and was the heaviest of his career for the match (Lewis). And since this is a statistic thread, let's bring up another one: 0-2. That's Vitali's record against those guys, which constitutes a 0% winning percentage. The best wins Vitali has managed were an eight-round TKO over a disgustingly out-of-shape 38-year-old one-hit wonder Corrie Sanders who hadn't fought in over a year, a two-round stoppaeg of a disgustingly out-of-shape Kirk Johnson who weighed in the heaviest of his career by 14 pounds (and he was already fat at the lighter weights!), and an eight-round TKO over one-hit wonder fringe contender (that one hit coming against a washed-up, injured Mike Tyson) Danny Williams.

    Vitali has never beaten an established top fighter- the best he managed were a few flash-in-the-pan guys who pulled off one noteworthy win and then disappeared (and were mostly old, rusty and grossly out of shape). The only two established top fighters he faced, he lost to. As such, although his record is very statistically impressive, he cannot be reasonably seen as a great fighter unless he actually successfully makes a comeback and defeats some established upper-tier contenders. Peter would be a good start; although I don't hold him in high regard, Peter is at least in his prime, active, and has beaten three name opponents (Toney, McCline, Maskaev- all old, rusty and out-of-shape mind you, and two of them nearly beat Peter, but nonetheless). A win over Peter would be by far the best of Klitschko's career, which you should realize is extremely embarrassing for a fighter of the level you want to promote Klitschko as being.