What is Vitlai Klitschko’s most impressive boxing stastics?

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  1. lbarrow

    lbarrow Well-Known Member Full Member

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    cani just say that how can he possibly have the best percentage when he hs 34 kos from 35 fights when hebie hide has 40 kos from 41 fights?
     
  2. Vanboxingfan

    Vanboxingfan Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because you have to take the KO's from the number of fights fought, not the number of wins. So Herbie Hide at 40 KO's in 45 fights has a KO ratio of 88.9%. V.K. has 34 KO's out of 37 fights which is a KO ratio of 91.9%. That's why.
     
  3. Bodysnatcher

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  4. Mendoza

    Mendoza Hrgovic = Next Heavyweight champion of the world. banned Full Member

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    Scorecards and films are out there. They indicate boxing ability. Vitlai has the best rounds won to round lost ratio in the history of heavyweight champions. Its not made up, it is true. Vitlai is tops on the score cards, even when fighting with a bad cut or torn shoulder rotator cuff / ligaments vs two quality champions in Byrd and Lewis respectively. I also want to add that Vitlai took both fights on less than 2 weeks notice, and was training for a ten rounder when he meet Lewis.

    Byrd was lucky. He beat Vitlai the way a great tennis player sometimes has to retire up 2 sets to zero, only to suffer an injury.

    As for Lewis, fine that is a cuts loss. I think Vitlai would have won the fight if they let it go on as Lewis shot his load. The cut was not bleeding that bad, or blocking his vision to the point where Vitali could not see. There was no re-match. Lewis knew better. And Byrd would offer a re-match either.
     
  5. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    That's one hell of a spin-job!

    "doubling him on the scorecards" sounds pretty impressive... until you realize that if just one round was scored the other way, then Vitali wasn't ahead at all. :yep

    And Lennox swept the final round on all cards, so was clearly the stronger of the two at the end. (I dare you to start talking about how hard he sat on his stool :lol::lol::lol::lol::lol::lol:)

    I also loved your mention of Lewis being "almost out" in round 2 (the only round Vitali actually dominated), yet seem to forget Vitali falling all over Lennox later in the fight like a drunk spastic. :yep
     
  6. Ambition_Def

    Ambition_Def **** the people. Full Member

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    The one thing I'd give Lewis credit for is that historically speaking he did come on late in fights that seemed he was losing. He did it against Briggs as well when it looked as though he was ready for the taking.

    Vitlay was finished after a few rounds. Which historically speaking for him, is also a common situation. Example: Chris Byrd.
     
  7. Vanboxingfan

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  8. Drexl

    Drexl Your Hero Full Member

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    The scorecards are there to determine a winner IF the fight goes the distance. If it doesn't, they are irrelevant.

    Let me just stop you there - both the rounds Vitali lost vs Lennox were after the cut was opened.


    Lewis was old and had done all he set out to do in his career long before Vitali's name was even mentioned. He knew that the haters would never be happy unless he kept fighting until he lost regardless of age, and why should he try to please them anyway? His fans were calling for him to retire before the Tyson fight FFS.

    And you need to learn the rules. Bleeding per se has nothing to do with whether a cut is bad enough to warrant a stoppage. It's all about whether a fighter is able to adequately see and therefore defend himself.

    The doctor let it got for several rounds, and only stopped it when Vitali couldn't see properly to the side because his ****ing eyelid was in the way, not blood! He had no periferal vision on the side where Lennox's best punch would be coming from, therefore he was unable to adequately defend himself. Therefore good stoppage.

    Hell, judging by Vitali's lack of defensive ability/intelligence from round 3 onwards - where he couldn't avoid being hit repeatedly on an obvious target - he should have been declared unable to adequately defend himself even without his face hanging off! :lol:
     
  9. Vanboxingfan

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    Those are pretty much my thoughts as well. A fighter could have won 2 out of 3 rounds in a fight and then been knocked out and by this reasoning he was "doubling him on the scorecard."
     
  10. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    We have been through this a million times, and it is flawed logic. 1 round scored the other way and Vitali was winning 5-1. What's your point? The point is that Vitali clearly won 4-2. All three judges also had that score. If Lewis had won another round, then it wouldn't have been the same fight.

    The facts are that Vitali won 4 rounds.

    Lewis won 2 rounds.

    I am not sure how they taught math at your school, but where I went to school, that means that Vitali won double the amount of rounds that Lewis won.
     
  11. LiamE

    LiamE Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hide has a comparable KO ratio.... if you just consider wins in fact his is better. Clearly that dont mean jack.
     
  12. WiDDoW_MaKeR

    WiDDoW_MaKeR ESB Hall of Fame Member Full Member

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    Directly before fighting Vitali....

    "I am at my best right now. I'm at the top of my game. I'm like a fine wine, I get better with age" - Lennox Lewis


    After he fought Vitali, sat on his title for 8 months and then was mandated by the WBC to fight Vitali or be stripped... he had quite a different outlook on his career.
     
  13. Drexl

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    And if Vitali wasn't TKO in the 6th, it wouldn't have been the same fight either! So why even mention the scorecards?? They are irrelevant because Vitali was stopped.
     
  14. Drexl

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    WOW!! :shock:

    "Fighter hypes up his condition before big fight"

    What a shocker!!!!!!


    I guess you also believed James Toney when he said he was in the best shape of his career before every fight?
    Did you believe Oscar when he said he was in great shape before the Sturm fight as well?

    :lol::lol:

    Lennox was CLEARLY fatter than he had ever been, indicating that he was planning on an early KO of Kirk Johnson and didn't have enough time to alter that plan for Vitali.
     
  15. kenmore

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    Vitali was the world's best fighter in 2004, when he was still healthy. But he hasn't been able to complete a training camp in years. What does Vitali have left...is it even reasonable for him to attempt a comeback?

    I would hate to see Vitali lose to an inferior fighter like Peter because of age and injury.