What is your opinion on fighters

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  1. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Who are naturally built for heavier weightclasses, but compete at weightclasses with smaller guys

    I.e. fighters who are built for Middleweight/light-middleweight, and compete at Welter, and come in the ring fight night weighing 160 or more

    Margarito, Paul Williams etc

    Do you think they have an unfair advantage in the ring? And do you think that same-day weigh ins should be re-introduced to stop large disparitys in weight on fight night?
     
  2. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Any fighter who works hard to get down to a weight has my respect especially considering they would have probably worked harder then their opponent to make weight but if they prove themselves to be a glass jawed disgrace at that weight they will instantly lose it (respect)
     
  3. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    But if they come in the ring at 160, and their opponent (and the belt they may be fighting for) is at 147, that is unfair, and potentially dangerous, no?
     
  4. Uncle Rico

    Uncle Rico Loyal Member Full Member

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    Erm....some would say boiling down to a weight lower than what’s ideal for them, is to their own detriment. So if that’s what they want to do, then all the power to them.

    However, cutting weight works differently for everyone. Some can cut down and then rehydrate 17 pounds heavier, very safely. So yes, people like these have an incredible advantage.

    I personally would like to see same day weigh-ins. It’ll be a more efficient way of ensuring fighters of the same size fight each other. That can only be a good thing, surely.
     
  5. Arcane

    Arcane One More Time Full Member

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    Legal is legal, I know the IBF restrict the amount of weight you can put on from the weigh in to the fight but it doesn't bother me much, the type of guys who put on excessive amounts of weight are normally the ones who struggle with making the weight more.
     
  6. GJM

    GJM Active Member Full Member

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    Two sides to the 'danger' argument though. Boiling down the day of the fight and going in de-hydrated puts fighters in danger too. Don't think there's a satisfactory answer either way.
     
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    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    in a way they have to drain more, so it's a double edged sword.
     
  8. Addie

    Addie Myung Woo Yuh! Full Member

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    I think the importance of weight is overstated.
     
  9. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Would the satisfactory answer, not be to exclude fighters who would walk into the ring at over the limit (and thus have to have boiled down beforehand) from competing at the weight?
     
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    anybody who loses a lot of weight to get to a weight limit deserves props from me. losing weight is hard if u dont have the discipline or motivation necesary to do it
     
  11. Vidic

    Vidic Rest in Peace Manny Full Member

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    Chavez jr?
     
  12. m8te

    m8te Oh you ain't know? Full Member

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    not true at all. you act like bernard hopkins had welterweight tommy hearns physicl advantages. he fought at middleweight for nearly twenty years, countless times fighting guys who were natural middleweights. he just so happened to become a star beating de la hoya and trinidad, naturally smaller guys.
     
  13. Squire

    Squire Let's Go Champ Full Member

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    It's nothing to do with actual boxing though, is it? It does deserve respect in itself, but should that allow the fighter to fight someone smaller than themself?

    If I beat the **** out of someone in the street who was smaller than me, but then said 'It's okay guys, I rehydrated 20lbs overnight- it was a fair fight :deal' would that be okay? :hey
     
  14. Emeritus

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    Thats not true, Hopkins is one of THE most disciplined fighters ever.

    He stayed at a low weight because he ran so much and he was always in shape and never a few pounds over his fighting weight even when out of competition.

    What Vidic is talking about is completely different, Hopkins never boils down.