What is your scorecard of Ezzard Charles vs Harold Johnson 1953

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  1. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    A couple years ago I had it 6 rounds to 4 in favor of charles. here is my old scorecard

    Round 1 Johnson

    Round 2 Charles

    Round 3 Charles

    Round 4 Charles

    Round 5 johnson

    Round 6 johnson

    Round 7 Charles

    Round 8 Johnson

    Round 9 Charles

    Round 10 Charles- johnson knocked down from Charles's right hand, incorrectley ruled a slip.


    my total ezzard charles 6-4 in rounds or 96-93 counting the knockdown. Now that was my old scorecard, I plan on re-scoring it in a few days.


    What is your scorecard?
     
    SuzieQ49, Apr 15, 2009
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  2. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I don't have a RBR scorecard, but I always thought Johnson won that fight clearly. He landed the cleaner, sharper punches and appeared to stagger Charles in a number of rounds. I agreed with the one judge who had Johnson ahead by a fair margin.
     
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  3. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Wow, looks like one of us needs to get there eyes checked. I seem to remember charles landing the cleaner sharper punches, he outlanded johnson in power punches from what I saw and floored johnson in round 10. Charles also seemed to control ring generalship dictating the fight. Johnson scored well with jabs, but charles evened it up with shots to the body.
     
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  4. sweet_scientist

    sweet_scientist Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    98-94 Johnson

    Charles: rounds 3 and 7.

    Johnson: rounds 1,2,5,6,8 and 10.

    Round 4 being even.

    Had the knockdown in the 10th been counted for Charles, then it becomes a 10-9 round for Charles, making Johnson a 2 point winner on my card.

    As far as I'm concerned, Johnson simply landed too much. Charles would occasionally land a real good, heavy blow, but he was getting too badly outboxed in the meanwhile. The effect of Charles' blows were not superior enough to outweigh the work done by Harold.

    If you score this fight for Charles then you should score DLH-Mosley II for Shane Suze.
     
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  5. My2Sense

    My2Sense Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    What about all the times that Johnson staggered/shook Charles, though? How does that fit into your assessment?

    I just re-watched the first three rounds, and IMO they go clearly to Johnson. He clearly staggered Charles in round 1, wobbled him twice in round 2, and made him sag with a body shot toward the end of round 3. He did more than just work his jab in those rounds, he scored well with sneak/counter rights and uppercuts.
     
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  6. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    We need some more scorecards, I strongly disagree with both of you. looks like I will have to do a round by round assessment
     
    SuzieQ49, Apr 19, 2009
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  7. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have about Q's scorecards mostly.

    Give or take a round. I felt Charles won a close, but CLEAR fight, dont recall Charles being stagger. Going to have to rewatch it to know for sure.
     
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  8. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't remember the scorcard but has I know I had Charles winning by 2 points the knockdown should have been scored.
     
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  9. SuzieQ49

    SuzieQ49 The Manager Full Member

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    Thats 3 to 2 in favor of Charles
     
    SuzieQ49, Apr 20, 2009
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  10. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    I scored the fight 6-4 to charles. It was a close fight though.
     
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  11. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I had it close but clear to johnson.

    Nice proof btw :lol: a thread were the vote is 3-3 :lol:
     
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  12. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    3-2!!! :rofl now it is 4-3.
     
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  13. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Yeah 4-3 including yourself.

    Honestly I think you're just a bad troll.

    Can't be arsed wasting any more time on you.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 23, 2012
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  14. choklab

    choklab cocoon of horror Full Member

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    because I disagree with you? because I backed up what I said? You questioned why I thought more people who watch the film thought charles won. Its here. Its not trolling at all. You disagree thats ok. I am not labeling you at all am I ?
     
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  15. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    I think this is one of the fights that shows charles's decline.

    Prime for prime he'd have actually beaten johnson.
     
    lufcrazy, Mar 23, 2012
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