What is your SMW top 25?

No, it's base on the fact that Froch and Inkin have fought and beat no one.

I base my ranking on recent accomplishment not things a fighter "might" do when he finally steps up.

Beside, I never pretended like my rankings are perfect. Which is why I update them about once a month. hehe

 

Veit, even the shot version of him Inkin beat, is better than anyone Bika's beaten.

 

By the way guys. I did not promote Andrade or Bika and I did not move down Inkin and Froch. They actually all moved up.

The changes came when I moved down Miranda following his lost to Abraham and removed Taylor since he won't be fighting a legitimate super middleweight until the end of the year. I also removed Mundine because he dropped his belt and he's moving down to 160lbs. I brought back in guys like Zuniga and Berrio.

Old VS New!

01- Mikkel Kessler - Mikkel Kessler *No Change
02- Lucian Bute - Lucian Bute *No Change
03- Anthony Mundine - Andrade (+2) *Mundine OUT!
04- Jermain Taylor - Bika (+3) *Taylor OUT!
05- Librado Andrade - Froch (+3)
06- Edison Miranda - Inkin (+3)
07- Sakio Bika - Miranda (-1)
08- Carl Froch - Zuniga *New Entry
09- Denis Inkin - Berrio *New Entry
10- Vitali Tsypko - Tsypko *No Change

 

That's debatable.

I see Veit as not much more then a skilled journeyman.

 

But you wrote you base your rankings on accomplishments?

 

Accomplishments does not necessarily mean victory.

In my opinion, competitive performances against Calzaghe, Bute and Beyer. Plus a win over Codrington is a better accomplishment then beating Veit + 31 bums or guys with padded records.

The guy has talent. No one will deny that. But he has fought no one other then Veit. I can't rate him over Bika base on what he might do. We know what Bika can do. Everything about Inkin is speculation only.

 

Sartison belongs in top 15 in my oponion

 

I agree that he proved his worth against Kessler but who would you replace him with?

Jean Pascal perhaps? :huh

 

Here is a quick breakdown. It's not perfect obviously and I would need to write paragraphe to explain all the choices. But here it is anyway.


01- Mikkel Kessler: Wins over Mundine, Andrade & Beyer. Very good performance against Calzaghe.

02- Lucian Bute: Wins over Bika & Berrio.

03- Librado Andrade: Wins over Mack and Stieglitz.

04- Sakio Bika: Win over Codrington and competitive fights with Calzaghe, Bute and Beyer.

05- Carl Froch: Decent wins over Reid & Magee.

06- Denis Inkin: Win over Veit.

07- Edison Miranda: Win over Green.

08- Fulgencio Zuniga: Win over Oganov, Zertuche, Echols and a war with Pavlik.

09- Alejandro Berrio: Wins over Stieglitz, Mack and Vanderpool.

10- Vitali Tsypko: Controversial lost to Lacy and win over Gogiya.

11- Jeff Lacy: Controversial win over Tsypko + win against against Manfredo. Riding off his reign as the IBF Champion.

12- Andre Ward: Wins over Williams and Ravelo.

13- Andre Dirrell: Wins over Stevens and Hanshaw.

14- Allan Green: Wins over Codrington, Ravelo and William.

15- Jean Pascal: Win over Ikeke.

 

Berrio-Greene-Pascal for sure :good

 

IMHO, wins over Stevens and Hanshaw (decent fighters in their primes) is a big step up over wins over shot Williams and visually-impaired Ravelo. Also, honestly, Dirrell just looks much better than Ward. Yes, Dirrell can be sleep-incuding sometimes, but in terms of pure natural talent, he's up there with the best of them at 168.

Also, do you think Ward would beat Miranda? If not, then I'm not sure how you can rank Ward ahead of Green, when Green already beat the best fighters Ward faced, and has also beaten 2 or 3 other decent fighters (Codrington, Bonsante, Linton, etc.).

 

1. Kessler
2. Bute
3. Mundine
4. Andrade
5. Froch
6. Inkin
7. Bika
8. Berrio
9. Taylor
10. Pascal

 

Where's Jermain "The Main Man" Taylor, feller?

 

Updating my own list (new rankings in parenthesis):

1. Joe Calzaghe (Kessler)
2. Mikkel Kessler (Bute)
3. Anthony Mundine (Taylor)
4. Lucian Bute (Froch)
5. Jeff Lacy (Lacy)
6. Carl Froch (Beyer)
7. Markus Beyer (Bika)
8. Sakio Bika (Berrio)
9. Alejandro Berrio (Inkin)
10. Jean Pascal (Andrade)

11-15 (range):
Allan Green, Vitali Tsypko, Denis Inkin, Jurgen Braehmer and Jean Paul Mendy (Miranda, Green, Tsypko, Dirrell, Pascal)

15 - 20 (range):
Librado Andrade, Jaidon Codrington, Mads Larsen, Fulgencio Zuniga, Sam Soliman. (Zuniga, Brahmer, Larsen, Ward, Codrington)

20 - 25 (range): Manfredo, Reid and a bunch of prospects. (Still a bunch of prospects)