:shock: You mean you SERIOUSLY rate Bika (whom Bute beat):deal and Taylor, who hasn't even fought at SMW above the likes of Mundine, Bute, Inkin...?:huh I am sorry, but I don't see how that could be...do you think Bika would beat Bute in a rematch?:huh Yeeees...every man IS entitled to an opinion...:blood (What impressed you so much about Froch's performance against shot Reid last night?):huh
Brähmer should be in the Top10, Tsypko out of the Top10. Froch should be ahead of Andrade, Berrio ahead of Bika and Miranda. 1. Calzaghe 2. Kessler 3. Bute 4. Mundine 5. Lacy 6. Froch 7. Inkin 8. Andrade 9. Brähmer 10. Berrio
Axe made the following list: C:Joe Calzaghe 1.Mikkel Kessler 2.Jeff Lacy 3.Anthony Mundine 4.Marcus Beyer 5.Carl Froch 6.Lucian Bute 7.Librado Andrade 8.Edison Miranda 9.Alan Green 10.Jurgen Braehmer
Brickhaus made the following list: C: Joe Calzaghe 1. Mikkel Kessler 2. Anthony Mundine 3. Lucian Bute 4. Carl Froch 5. Jeff Lacy 6. Denis Inkin 7. Sakio Bika 8. Edison Miranda 9. Alejandro Berrio 10. Jean Pascal
McGrain made the following list: C:Joe Calzaghe 1.Mikkel Kessler 2.Lucian Bute 3.Carl Frotch 4.Anthony Mundine 5.Librado Andrede 6.Allan Green 7.Jeff Lacey 8.Sakio Bika 9.Edison Miranda
Decebal - you are the ultimate super middleweight boxing fan! You really have the hots for Bute and Kessler don't you As far as I'm concerned the only fighters in the super middleweight division with any significance are: 1. Calzaghe (and he's probably moving up) 2. Kessler (should take over as #1 if Calzaghe moves up) 3. Bute (still undefeated and perhaps a little overlooked - he beat Salem and Bika better than Calzaghe did) 4. Carl Froch (Undefeated and an exciting fighter with a big punch and a mouth to match) 5. Dennis Inkin (because he's 31-0) 6. Jeff Lacy (to see if he can ever recover from the Calzaghe battering) 7. Sakio Bika (because he won the contender) OK, I'm bored already. Please explain your fascination with this division that you would make you want to take the time to name your top 25.
I updated my rankings. I only did a top15 tho. Champion: Calzaghe (WBC, WBA & WBO) 01- Kessler 02- Bute (IBF) 03- Mundine 04- Inkin 05- Andrade 06- Lacy 07- Braehmer 08- Froch 09- Tsypko 10- Pascal 11- Bika 12- Miranda 13- Green 14- Zuniga 15- Stieglitz
I don't know enough about the division to go beyond 17 at the moment, with any confidence...I am interested in SMW because it's Bute's division and because it is a very good division at the moment. I know quite a bit about the division...There are quite a few others who know much more, though, so I started this thread...everyone is biased in some way, but if everyone makes a good case for their favourites and you read between the lines, you can decide what's what. For example, some people here are unimpressed with Froch, especially after his last fight. The best guy he beat was Tatevosyan - barely World Class. Since then, he beat shot old Reid, who was just in it for a paycheck. Some British posters love Froch and this he is one of the best in the division. German posters love their German fighters, and they love Inkin, who fights out of Germany. Canadians love Bute and Pascal, whom they overrate a bit. I love Lucian, Joe, Mikkel...but I try to be objective...still, I am sure I am prejudiced as much as everyone else, without realising it...The more of these lists crop up, the better we might form an opinion about who the best 10-15 really are. (Some people don't have a clue about the division, more broadly, though, like the ones who exclude Inkin from their Top 10 or the ones who put Froch above Bute in the rankings or Bute above Kessler...) One thing is to be biased, another thing is to go overboard...:bart Still, if I am to be honest, I don't think the best rankings that I personally can do is perfect...I wouldn't give my own best ranking more than 7.5/10 - 8/10...simply because I don't know enough about all the fighters involved...
That's a very nice ranking, Maxime! Probably the best so far! But is Pascal as good as that, already? Also, Froch and Braehmer will most likely meet next year in a title fight...you picking Braehmer over Froch?
Bute beat Berrio and Bika, but he hasn't impressed that much, particularly in his last fight...maybe Choc should really come ahead of him...maybe also Froch is better than 8th...somewhere around 6th/7th?
I have a hard time putting Mundine ahead of Bute when all he has done lately is fight cab drivers from Argentina. Mundine has the talent for sure but his resume in the last year and a half does not convince me he should be ranked ahead of Bute.