What is your SMW top 25?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Decebal, Oct 26, 2007.


  1. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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      - showed enough in defeat to Calzaghe to suggest he's easily the 2nd best at 168
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      - Improving all the time. Has weaknesses that Kessler/Calzaghe would exploit but I'd back him against everyone else.
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      - Question marks about his fitness (knee) but has very good power and chin in this division. Seen as a bit of a joke in the UK and needs to step up his opposition but he has the beating of those beneath.
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      - More question marks. Needs a good showing against Manfredo and then a serious test to prove me right but I think he has a lot more to offer than the Calzaghe fight.
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      - He's over-rated. Massive question marks about his eye and his chin. Has lost every time he's stepped up his opposition and is getting old.
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      - Has raised more issues about himself than anything else from his fight with Bruer. Can obviously box but can be decked.
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      - Fringe at best with Calzaghe/Kessler around but will be in the mix when they leave for pastures new.
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      - Gets in ahead of Bika due to Bika's losses (though against top opposition). Like most SMW's, he needs to step up in class and fight the guys above him to improve his rating, would like to see him vs Froch.
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      - Has been in the mix with the best in the division. Popular figure now but limited boxer.
    No place in my top 10 for Andrade, Tsykpo, Manfredo, Green, Berrio (retired), Pascal or Stieglitz but they'd make up the next few in some order.
     
  2. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    I agree there are questionmarks over Lacy...and even about Mundine. Hmmm...but maybe as sean says...Lacy should be taken out of consideration because he is still injured...
    But I give them the benefit of the doubt. Mundine v. Bika would answer all questions.

    If Froch beats Inkin...I would even put him 3rd-4th...but he has not shown the kind of form that would make me put him 4th as of yet...good news is we don't have much to wait to see how good Froch really is...:good
     
  3. Odo

    Odo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Berrio shouldnt be in your list! Stieglitz stopped him in their first encounter,and would probably have stopped him in their second encounter as well if he hadnt run into one of Berrio's haymakers.Stieglitz is head and shoulders over Berrion in terms of skills and talent.I woudl rank him higher than the very one-dimensional Columbian.

    As for Lacy he also lost to Tsypko.I dont care what the official score cards said after that fight.Whoever watched that fight could see with his very own eyes that Tsypko should have been the official victor of that fight.

    As for Bika I for my part think that he is a bit overrated.Dont get me wrong! He is a good fighter,but not really a top 10 fighter at supermiddle IMO.
     
  4. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    So...how have things changed for you after that disappointing and damning performance from Jeff Lacy?
     
  5. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    Lacy drops right down to 10... one more showing like that and he's out completely. Everyone else moves up one accordingly.
     
  6. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Good call!:good
     
  7. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    As hard as it seems to be - he was slower than against Calzaghe, neglected any kind of punch that resembled a jab and has lost power. I reckon that shoulder is really ****ed up. He's been earmarked by up and coming SMW's as a test the water fighter I reckon.

    And Dan Birmingham... jesus, I am lost for words how ineffective this individual is for Lacy.
     
  8. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Yeah...all those who are afraid to take on Bika will go for Lacy...:)

    Dan Birmingham is bad for Lacy...very bad...
     
  9. TFFP

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    Calzaghe
    Kessler
    Mundine
    Froch
    Bute
    Inkin
     
  10. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Bute a top 5 SMW?! Whatever next!:bart
     
  11. TFFP

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    I think Froch can move up to 3 in the near future
     
  12. PrideOfWales

    PrideOfWales Winston Zedmore Full Member

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    I find it impossible to rank Froch above Bute at this stage as Froch has faced nobody to test him... and he's 30. And he's flawed. Bute should be above Froch in everyone's list presently.

    As for Mundine... pff!
     
  13. TFFP

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    I've probably overrated Mundine, he's just impressed me on a few occasions

    None of these guys outside of JC and Kessler have beaten anybody great, it's pretty much subjective

    Froch is going to bang Inkin out, I'm certain of that, and that will put him right up there. Don't see why he can't beat Bute either, these are fights that should be made in the next year
     
  14. Decebal

    Decebal Lucian Bute Full Member

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    Mate, Froch is the best! Just ask him!

    1. Froch
    2. Calzaghe
    3. Inkin
    4. Kessler
    5. who cares - certainly not Bute
    6. Haussler
    7. Manfredo
    8. Mundine
    9. Sanavia
    10. certainly not Bute...
     
  15. TFFP

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    Froch KO Ali 1

    In his own mind