What justification is there to NOT have Mijares in the top 3 P4P right now?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by EARL, May 29, 2008.


  1. EARL

    EARL Active Member Full Member

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    Dominated a very good fighter in Arce and has just unified. Especially if he becomes undisputed in his division is there any justification to not have him in the top 3 if not have him there at this moment?
     
  2. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    H2H wise, there isn't. I think he's #2 P4P H2H, maybe #1 depending on how well Guzman adjusts to 135 and how much Mijares improves in the near future.
     
  3. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Wow, your an idiot. Hang on, i already knew that. Arce is a good fighter, since when? Almost losing to the decidely average Hussein and getting his face mashed up hahaha... Yeah right. Mijares didn't look dominant in his last performance despite winning clearly, there were many close rounds, largely due to his inactivity. None of those guys he has beaten were top level fighters either. Cotto in comparison has taken Abdulleav, Pinto, Quintana, Malignaggi, Torres, Judah, Corley and Mosley. He has been dominant against all but Mosley, who he won a clear UD 8-4. If you really think that Mijares compares on current resume and performance, you are even more stupid than I previously thought. Quite an accomlpishment.
     
  4. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Blind leading the blind. Let me guess, Gamboa is number 3 hahaha...
     
  5. huki

    huki huk huk ^_^;; Full Member

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    No, not even close until he improves. And you're blind if you think Mijares wasn't dominant in his last performance. Don't call people stupid after saying something stupid like that. :lol:

    If Guzman's stamina gets significantly better at 135, he is without a doubt the best fighter in the world P4P.. which is an insanely great accomplishment considering he was at his best at 122.
     
  6. EARL

    EARL Active Member Full Member

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    What exactly do you have against me, friend? Did someone named Earl steal your old lady from your ugly ass, or is it that time of month for you again? :huh

    As for Mijares his resume isn't spectacular but you have to base P4P rankings on H2H ability as well as resume, and his resume isn't bad at the moment.
     
  7. EARL

    EARL Active Member Full Member

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    Gamboa hasn't even won one belt, let alone two.
     
  8. Monticello

    Monticello Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's a very good fighter, you have Floyd Mayweather, Manny Pacquiao, and Joe Calzaghe up there, and I they have very impressive resumes.
     
  9. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I cant see him at #3 yet (and i say "yet" cause he has the skills)....but I agree that was a very harsh tirade by MSTR....??:huh:huh:huh:lol:
     
  10. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    No, i've just seen time and time again that your a jerk who doesn't know what he is talking about. I notice you had nothing to refute my points. I could bring up similar points with guys like Pac, Mayweather, Calzaghe, Marquez also.... I think Mijares is a good fighter, albiet an over rated one on these forums. Deserving of a higher spot in the p4p rankings. I would have him above Pavlik that is for sure, as well as Marquez for sure. Vasquez has had some very good recent wins. I think Mijares is a better fighter, but he still needs to put some wins against real top opposition before being put ahead.
     
  11. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    Dominant is a beat down. Something it clearly was not. What is your definition. Calzaghe v Lacy was a dominant performance. Breaking down you opponent in the mid rounds brutally like Cotto did to Quintana was dominant. His performance against Munzon WAS NOT DOMINANT. It was a clear decision however, as stated. Please prove otherwise if you don't agree, don't just state your opinion as fact. As for Guzman's insanely great accomplishment... ROFL. It's just your personal opinion. Not an accomplishment at all. If you think he is without a doubt the best p4p fighter in the world, than Soto must be a lot better fighter than i think for tagging him so damn much and taking him the distance. Your so biased it's sickening.
     
  12. planetzion

    planetzion Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Saying 'dominant' means 'beat down' then giving examples of beat downs as a comparitive to prove yr point is kinda off....To me dominant means something different then beat down does...your now talking about personal definitions and splitting hairs a little...just my 2cents
     
  13. EARL

    EARL Active Member Full Member

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    Actually I did.. I stated that P4P rankings should be based on H2H ability as well as resume, and I personally believe that Mijares beats 115 lb versions of Mayweather, Pac, AND Cotto. :good And like I said his resume isn't that bad either.

    No you can't, you can only bring up opinions like myself.

    You insult my intelligence and then claim to have Pavlik in your top 10? Oh the irony. I mean, it's fine and dandy if you want to have Pavlik if you'd like, but you do realize that if I was a sore ******* like yourself I could probably pick at things and insult you for having Pavlik in your top 10, right?
     
  14. boxbox

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    hmmn..good point. Tho i think more people think there are still around 10 fighters better than him in the P4P sense. And you dont base your arguments on spectacular wins over below elite fighters, but more on wins, spectacular or not, against A level.
     
  15. MSTR

    MSTR More Speed Than Roy!!!!! Full Member

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    No, i was giving a definition of dominant. That was what the arguement was about mate. A dominant performance is something where one fighter clearly breaks down the other guy, or totally shuts him out. Neither of those things happened. Thanks for that anyway.