What kind of fighter could beat...

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  1. TartanSoldier

    TartanSoldier Barnburner. Full Member

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    How on earth does Ketchel beat Hagler?

    Although I don't agree with it you have to respect LaMotta and give him a shot at beating Hagler

    Robinson might just be able to do it. It would be close.

    Monzon is a pick 'em fight in my opinion and one I don't like predicting.
     
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  2. laxpdx

    laxpdx Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I can't think of anybody off hand. Quite possibly Roy Jones, the king of blinding speed. Then again, it's 15 rounds. Roy was never tested by anybody as complete as prime Hagler, superb boxer and relentless puncher all rolled into one.
     
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  3. thistle1

    thistle1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    a Gibbons, a Dillon, a McAvoy, a Cerdan, these are the type that could pull it of, not saying they would, but they could.

    great fighters that are noted busy rough & tough *******s fit for anyone even bigger fighters, thats what you need to beat a prime Hagler...

    just thinking it's would of been great IF Marvin could have met Qawi at catch weights say in & around 170, I still go with Qawi, he's the type of fighter to beat Hagler.
     
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  4. Flea Man

    Flea Man มวยสากล Full Member

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    Great choice.
     
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  5. PowerPuncher

    PowerPuncher Loyal Member Full Member

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    Ray Leonard sort of did it. Roy Jones would, Charles probably does, Robinson as he grew into the weight probably would, Monzon might, Hopkins probably would, Toney could, Burley would run him close, Greb who knows. McCallum and Kalambay I think could do it. I'd favour him over Nunn but I'd give Nunn a shot. Marshall you have to give a shot based on his wins

    I don't think any of these can: Ketchel, LaMotta,Tiger, Griffith
     
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  6. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Monzon
    Hop
    Jones
    Toney
    Robinson maybe
    Burley
    Ezz
    McCallum could try
     
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  7. Stevie G

    Stevie G Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I agree with you about Monzon. Definitely a 50/50 one.
     
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  8. Lester1583

    Lester1583 Can you hear this? Full Member

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    Greb - no footage.

    McCallum - can't decide. Hagler looked more dynamic of the two.

    Kalambay - don't know if he could pull it off over the whole distance.

    Nunn - don't know if he could be consistent and disciplined enough. But he has chances.

    Same opinion.
     
    Lester1583, Jan 28, 2012
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  9. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    great conversations everyone but THIS is the kind of post i was hoping for :good good (and controversial) analysis!
     
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  10. Guyfawkes

    Guyfawkes Than who was phone?! Full Member

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    Prime Toney, and also Robinson, I just think James would make him miss all night, while standing right infront of him. He couldn't hurt Hagler but he would outpoint him IMO. Robinson just was too complete, he had the chin to take his shots, the movement to frustrate him,and the power to make Marvin think twice
     
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  11. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    toney is what i was thinking, robinson was complete but he's not the kind of stylistic nightmare i was imagining. robinson would win more on quality than style.

    who is a lesser fighter than hagler, who could win based more on his stylistic advantages?
     
    Nightcrawler, Jan 28, 2012
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  12. JohnThomas1

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    Monzon
    Hopkins
    SRR
    Jones
    SRL

    Outside chances LaMotta, Cerdan, Burley. Toney might frustrate him a bit being a counter puncher. So hard to judge that far back with Greb, Walker, etc.

    One person that completely escapes the radar due to numerous things is Billy Conn. His speed and boxing skill could be interesting here?
     
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  13. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :think movement of leonard (in fact better than leonard), ridiculous chin, ramrod jab. capable of outboxing hagler if needed, able to withstand a trench battle and slick enough to avoid getting drawn into hagler's counterpunching.
     
    Nightcrawler, Jan 28, 2012
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  14. JohnThomas1

    JohnThomas1 VIP Member

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    ;)
     
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  15. Nightcrawler

    Nightcrawler Boxing Addict Full Member

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    think we found our dark horse :good
     
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