What Kind of Power does Wilder Possess?

In spite of Wilders perceived lack of boxing skills, possesses good distance and decent timing attributes which combined with speed and a very awkward style makes for the punch that catches you off guard, the look on Ortiz face," where did that come from?"is what I see from a lot of Wilders victims, I believe a good boxer like Ali or maybe even Fury would pose a problem.

 

Also I've observed that Wilder wind mills when he has an opponent in trouble, it's an adrenalin rush, I've seen it in Razor Ruddock and a lot of other fighters, he would probably be more effective with a more discipline kill mode.

 

He has Max Baer level power. If Wilder connects cleanly with his right hand he can end anybody, just like Max used to.

 

Don't you see the contradiction in what your are saying?

First making a point about people calling Ortiz old and then going on to say WK is old. Do you think the Ortiz win is better than the WK win?

 

Funny how defensive some posters are about Wilder's power. Not sure why it is so hard for some to admit Wilder hits very hard.

 

Wilder has one punch, his right hand, but his right hand comes from a mile away so a boxer who can fight back will knock that woman beater out! Wilder is running from Joshua and always will..................

 

Good power against bums and old men.

 

Analyzing his career, the following points stand out:

1) Deontay Wilder has rendered only one opponent totally unconscious from clean, legal punches ranked inside the top 50. That was Artur Szpilka. Two if we include Siarrhei Liakovich but Liakovich was arguably hit by illegal blows (rabbit punches) before getting KO'ed.

2) Deontay Wilder has failed to KO many opponents and got premature stoppages multiple times. Such as against Johan Duhaupas and Gerald Washington. Which over-inflates his unwarranted high KO% and makes his power appear more impressive than it should. The same also applies to Anthony Joshua to some extent.

3) Deontay Wilder has only fought two PRIME opponents (pre-age 38 and whilst coming off good wins and whilst on top) from the top 10 rankings. They were Bermane Stiverne and Johan Duhaupas. Both who he failed to KO!

4) Over 80% of his KO victims are on the level of David Price in terms of punch resistance, durability and quality of record. Guys who have been stopped multiple times before facing Wilder. Or after facing Wilder or both. Whilst someone like Alexander Povetkin gets HEAVILY criticized and penalized for fighting and knocking out David Price at age 38 whilst totally past his best and washed up, by a lot of the same people who support Deontay Wilder. PRIME Deontay Wilder gets supported by those same people for continuing to KO opponents at the caliber of David Price at a regular basis.

At this point, Wilder's knockout power isn't even any more proven than David Haye's. I personally think David Haye punches just as hard. I also think David Haye's most impressive knockout at heavyweight (over Mark De Mori) is more impressive than Deontay Wilder's most impressive knockout at heavyweight (over Artur Szpilka). That's because although both Szpilka and Mark De Mori were only previously stopped once before fighting Wilder and Haye. Wilder needed 10 rounds to put Szpilka to sleep and needed far more punches. Whilst David Haye did the same to Mark De Mori in far less time, rounds and punches. Both were concussive knockouts!

Someone like Wladimir Klitschko is a FAR MORE PROVEN knockout artist with FAR MORE PROVEN knockout power than Deontay Wilder!

 

He clearly hits very, very hard. But how hard?

Hard to say, best way to judge a fighters power is to have that power tested against a proven chin and quite honestly he hasn't done that.

Stiverne dropped by Rossy, stopped by King, doesn't have a good chin.

Ortiz, seemed to have a good chin but in reality never fought a proven puncher so we don't know if his chin is good or just average.

Szpilka china chin.

Washington stopped by Miller who doesn't hit that hard, he's an accumulative puncher. Might have an average chin.

Duhaupas has a good chin but was stopped easily and far quicker by Povetkin while Wilder had to hit him constantly for 11 rounds with bombs to finally get him out of there.

Molina KO'ed a bunch of times quickly.

Arreola has a good chin but was shot and went down but got up and retired on his feet 4 rounds later, despite Stiverne KOing him cleanly much sooner.

Scott, I'm not even going to dignify that with an answer.

Liakhovich coming off 2 back to back stoppage losses, so his chin which was once decent was no longer there.

So while Wilder hits hard his results suggest Stiverne and Povetkin might actually hit harder. Joshua too stopped Molina and Gavern quicker than Wilder did.

Now Wilder might hit harder than all of them because of his lack of ability to land his big shots meaning it takes him longer to take his opponents out. I'd compare Wilder to a baseball team going for a home run every time a batter swings, yes he gets one or two home runs after nine innings, but Team Povetkin, Joshua and Stiverne who didn't get a single home among them scored more individual runs after nine innings by having their batters play more strategically and choosing when to hit and bunt to score more runs.

 

Illegal shots behind the ears, back of the head or with the forearm. Just look at his Knockout highlight reel:

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Edit: Also look for the dives on top of that.

 

I don’t think you’re a Wilder nuthugger. In fact, based on a couple of your comments I don’t think you’ve ever watched Wilder fight.

I mean, firstly Wilder isn’t a high intensity fighter. In fact, when he’s in there with a decent opponent it’s usually them that dictate the pace.

Based on your assessment of the Ortiz fight, you surely didn’t watch it.

There’s nothing wrong with having your favourite fighter, but come on, at least be objective. You weren’t happy that people said Ortiz would be a test for Wilder, but then afterwards said he was old, and a younger version would have beat him.

Well yes, you can be past your best and still be a test. Based on that fight, it’s fair to say that a younger Ortiz would have beaten Wilder.

Was Wlad a test for Joshua? You bet he was. Was he past his best? You bet he was. From that can we draw a conclusion that a younger Wlad beats Joshua? You bet we can.

Back on topic, Wilder has great power. I think Breazeale will just be target practise for him. He lacks movement on an epic level.

 

Wlider has crazy stupid foolish cartoonish power. It is what it is. Say what you want about his fundamentals, but anyone knocking his power is just hating.

 

This is true. Then you also have to take into account for the dives taken by bums and journeyman Malik Scott

 

Fixed it

 

The poll choices are BS.