What little moves & tricks have you seen recent ATG fighters take from older ATG's?

I like a technical thread like this. Keep it coming Bogotazo.:good

 

Although he is ATG himself, I know Duran borrowed the thing he used to do when he missed the right hook and would then step over into the southpaw stance to create an angle for his next shot. Im not certain but I think it might have been Fitzsimmons he got the move from, Im sure somebody can correct me if I gave the wrong name lol.

 

Great thread:good

 

This is one of my favourite Donaire moments.

That being said, is it really the Dempsey Roll? I've always thought that the creator of that video used the incorrect label to describe what Donaire is doing. From what I've seen, the Dempsey Roll is more about weaving from side to side while throwing hooks, putting weight behind each shot:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N2DPGFWT_Zc[/ame]

(0:37 - 0:40)

What Donaire is doing in the other clip looks quite different -- instead of planting his feet he's darting from side to side, and instead of throwing powerful hooks he's using leaping straights and uppercuts. He also pauses more rather than chaining the punches together. That being said, I do see why people compare it to the Roll, due to the constant side to side motion while throwing punches. Donaire is also a big fan of Hajime no Ippo, and the main character in that series uses the Dempsey Roll as his signature move, so I wouldn't be surprised if Donaire was trying his own, flashy version of the move.

 

Hopkins has been said but surprised no one spoke of his Walcott influence. I heard that even Ali emulated Walcott. Footwork was so smooth.

I mean look through 2:34-2:52,


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GifXosNPd_8[/ame]



Now look at Walcott :15-:35,


[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=opAJBr9G9MY[/ame]


Same pattern



Alvarez and Chavez Sr have similarities too though I didn't get the footage I wanted of Alvarez lol

 

And FLoyd Patterson

 

I think a thread like this deserves a

 

Here's one I just noticed today. Both Roberto Duran and Bernard Hopkins liked to sometimes throw a jab just short, momentarily leaving it in place so that it would blind an opponent, then come forward with an uppercut using the other hand.

For example, see Roberto Duran doing it right around 4:00 in this Gissaquid tribute:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4NLUIrxsE4A&feature=plcp[/ame]


and Hopkins doing it at :40 and 3:37 of this highlight:

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Akkc7KSGBto[/ame]

 

I don't know if it's just that you have two of the best combination/counter punchers of the last 30 years,but when I watch Marquez,I'm always reminded of Mike McCallum and the way they counter with the (usually lead) right and seem to be able to often land even before the opposing blow they intend to counter.

Check 1.21 and many times during the fight with McCrory if you were so inclined;

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQCoS4FSfk[/ame]

And at 1.52 and 4.56 and many times during the first and third fights with Pac;

[ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=A1BTyoX0-Ak[/ame]

More a stylistic similarity than a copied trick though.