What makes you think that Margo can do it?

UndisputedUK · Jul 26, 2008

Reasons why Margarito will brutally expose Cotto:-

Hunger, Determination, Highly motivated.
Iron chin, durability.
Relentless pressure, finishing ability.
Excellent stamina.
Physical size and strength, big Welterweight.
Very stong puncher, throws power punches all fight.

Cotto's best wins against fighters who were best at 140lbs.
Like the second Cintron fight, he will find that this fight was a stupid one to make for Cotto. He suceeds where he can overpower fighters.

Best outcome, Cotto stopped early.
Least best outcome, Cotto beaten up and stopped mid to late rounds.

:smooch

o_money · Jul 26, 2008

UndisputedUK said:

Reasons why Margarito will brutally expose Cotto:-

Hunger, Determination, Highly motivated.
Iron chin, durability.
Relentless pressure, finishing ability.
Excellent stamina.
Physical size and strength, big Welterweight.
Very stong puncher, throws power punches all fight.

Cotto's best wins against fighters who were best at 140lbs.
Like the second Cintron fight, he will find that this fight was a stupid one to make for Cotto. He suceeds where he can overpower fighters.

Best outcome, Cotto stopped early.
Least best outcome, Cotto beaten up and stopped mid to late rounds.

:smooch
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This is actually a pretty good summation of what margo's bringing to the table. It doesn't mean that he's going to mopp the floor with Cotto. But I wouldn't disagree with any of the strengths you mention.

I can see Cotto getting owned in this fight. It is certainly the most dangerous fight he could have taken. But the things that cotto has going for him can traditionally carry you a long way in boxing. So I got to go with him on this one.

coog · Jul 26, 2008

o_money said:

Cotto is a truly great pressure fighter. In the mold of Chavez and Duran. He has great boxing ability which he mixes in with his pressuring style. He has a solid frame and every punch he throws takes something from you. The top level fighters that Cotto has fought (Malignaggi, Quintana, Judah, Mosely) have all been boxers or boxer punchers. He has always matched up with them physically and has done well against them because the boxer verse pressure fighter style match up is one which favours the pressure fighter.

Against MArgarito however it would appear that Cotto has forfeited his strongest style. He is conceding the role of the pressure fighter to Margarito. When too pressure fighters meet logic dictates that the fighter that is better able to execute his style is the victor. So in essence by electing to be the boxer Cotto is saying that of the two of them Margarito is the one that can better execute that pressuring style.

In electing to box however Cotto is creating a style dynamic which favours Margarito (a.k.a. pressure fighter beats Boxer). If this is the case then MArgarito already has the advantage going in. And he will win the fight so long as he has fast enough feet and accurate enough/fast enough punches to effectively pressure and damage Cotto.

So the dilemma for me is how to tell whether or not MArgarito has the goods to do this. Part of me doesn't think he does. I've watch the guy and he's a slow ass *******. But he's effective.

To beat Cotto Margo doesn't need to be a great pressure fighter just a dam good one.

The part of me that thinks Margo will at least make this a close fight things that based on how long he's been a champion and how well he dealt with Cintron (a style match up that traditionally would favour the puncher) you'd have to think that he is at the very least Dam good at what he does. Right? And therefore good enough to make the inherent advantages that Cotto has conceded work for him. Right?

Well unfortunately the more I think about this fight the more I feel its not going to live up to the hype and that its going to be a world class schooling by Cotto. Pretty sure he's going to cruse to a wide UD with maybe one or two tough spots...maybe. Part of me worries that there is going to be a real difference in skills when these two meet on Saturday night.

Everyone that has gotten to Cotto has been fast. Cotto actually has a very good defense when he's defending. The times where he has gotten hit were when both he and the other guy were throwing a punch and the other guys punch got there first. I don't think that Margo's gonna be able to make that happen. And I'd have to believe that Cotto is slick enough to handle Margo's pressure.

Sure he might be hurt once or twice. Most fighters are in a fight. I think more then anything the fight will lack the type of ebbs and flows, which create real drama. So even if MArgarito does well it'll be like watching a fight with the same story every round. Fighter "A" has his moments but never does enough to win the round....round after round after round. Fighter "B" wins a clear decision.

Cause really thats the best case scenario for Cotto and I have a feeling he is head and shoulders enough above the much slower Margarito to be able to pull it off.

What I want is for some one to make a really good case for MArgarito. What is it about this guy that makes you think he has fast enough feet and accurate enough/fast enough punches to be able to trouble Cotto. Or what makes you think that he can apply intelligent enough pressure to counter Cotto's intelligent boxing. Cause if he can't then the only punch that I see him troubling Cotto with is that wicked uppercut of his. And the only real hope that he has of catching up to Cotto with anything else in his arsenal is if Cotto runs into stamina problems. So basically his only hope for a win looks to me like: A) hope to Christ Cotto has stamina problems and B) try to end it with an uppercut. A strategy based on the other guy gassing out or that relies on one punch might work against more limited fighters but against Cotto, a thinking fighter who has demonstrated great versatility, it isn't going to work.
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Well he isn't stupid and he is the bigger man, hits very hard (so does Cotto) Cotto may just be made for margarito

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