What methods do different trainers use?

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  1. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    Naazim's plan was there as relentless says...Mosley badly gassed and couldn't carry it out...but that right hand in round two shows the plan was effective...shame Shane couldn't carry it out...and that's coming from a fan of Floyd.
     
  2. Beeston Brawler

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    What does everyone tend to think about fighters doing roadwork?

    Is it essential they run on roads.... or does the local track suffice?

    Or are you an advocate of swimming instead, given that it improves posture and places less strain on the body :think
     
  3. portside

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    goodluck to you, mixing in boxing w3orld class, can only be a great thing for you.:good
     
  4. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Anyone see Kats and Mcdermot sparring ahead of their fights? I'm using that in the future.
     
  5. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Thank you. Will be a great experience i'm sure. :good
     
  6. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    I'm at uni at the moment but I will answer this later. The way people run is more important then the surface put it that way.
     
  7. Mandanda

    Mandanda SkillspayBills Full Member

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    :yep i think it's a smart way of getting a slow starter to start a bit faster. I think it will work for some and not work for others but i think it's smart idea.
     
  8. Relentless

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    conditioning is conditioning, whether you swim, run, track work, circuit work it all works the same if you're putting the intensity in.
     
  9. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Not enough peeps use our training forum- mainly american ******s- need more brits in there. :good

    All about objectives BB. You don't complete the running action at all in a boxing ring, you spend more time using your ad/abductors then you do moving backwards and forwards. Therefore running is not entirely specific to boxing- but resulting improvements in aerobic capacity and VO2 Max crosses over to boxing massively. If you can achieve the same heart rate, breathing rate whilst swimming then some might argue that it would be better due to the lack of impact- however impact isn't always a bad thing. It can trigger ossification amongst other things. There's lots to consider mate. I'm considering it all every day, that why i'll be a great trainer. :deal
     
  10. Beeston Brawler

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    I wouldn't be sure you could achieve it..... after half an hour of swimming I'm well over 1000m but my heart rate isn't up that much, and my fitness is pretty average.

    There is a lot of merit (in my opinion) in doing research into possible changes to generally accepted methods - such as aerobic fitness, and also specific things such as sparring.

    I'd imagine sparring like Ricky Hatton used to do would put a lot of miles on the clock, whereas the Ingle method wouldn't :think
     
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  12. brown bomber

    brown bomber 2010 Poster of the Year Full Member

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    Depends how you swim, also lower intensity has benefits- your aerobic capacity will still increase. You will capilirise, more densley, all the muscles you use and your alveoli.

    Its the right mixture that makes an athlete peak- many trainers are good- almost by accident. They don't know the whys but they know the hows. :thumbsup
     
  13. 20a87

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    Despite roadwork not being a sport specific movement it is a form of cardio that uses balance whilst on the feet, roadwork is not just a blanket term as it covers sprints/hillwork/long and short distance.

    Sport specific conditioning is not the same as supplementary work.

    Swimming doesn't allow you to carry your own body weight on your legs. I agree you can't neglect one energy system at the expense of another.


    The repetitive drills that roach and steward use are to promote muscle memory.
     
  14. Beeston Brawler

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    I think the problem with swimming is that it's more technical that running.

    Absolutely anybody can start running and have at worst a decent-ish technique..... whereas you can be super fit and absolutely hopeless at swimming, and not have the ability to exercise your muscles properly.
     
  15. Mandanda

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    The Klits use swimming to substitute road running i think. Obviously road running for big men is a lot more demanding. I'm sure they do a bit but i know swimming is a part of there conditioning.