He will go down lower than Manny and Floyd that's a fact He doesn't have many top wins. Might not win on December either. Let's see how that plays out He's way overrated imo and his competition is very poor
I don't think he would deserve a title shot after two back-to-back losses. The AJ-Dubois winner would surely want an undisputed bout against Usyk next. Fury could maybe fight the loser of AJ-Dubois after losing to Usyk a second time.
I think the best of Fury can handily dominate Usyk. Last fight he seemed to gas out, lacked constant rythm, timing and counters. He was more interested in being a showman than a fighter. Maybe he gets more serious and rebound for the rematch. I don't think Usyk will improve. There seems to be plenty of room for improvement for Fury though ! He could also westle a bit, use his size advantage. Get more professional. His gameplan last fight was to be a corner clown. Not a fan of Usyk and his olympic style. Fury can adjust and hurt him. That said, I am also not a fan of the current HW division.
Nonsense. These two ideas—that Fury lost because he wasn't properly conditioned and that he messed around too much—have been debunked many times. Usyk landed heavy head shots and combinations on Fury as early as the first two rounds, when Fury was still fresh. He also weighed in at his lightest in five years at 262 pounds. He trained for the Usyk fight from October to May, which was his longest camp since his return in 2018. His cheerleaders at talkSPORT couldn’t stop raving about how well his camp went and how this was the best-prepared Fury in a decade. Yet, when Usyk beat him, suddenly he wasn’t prepared enough. As for the showboating, it actually helped Fury by distracting the judges and audience, making the fight seem closer than it really was. Even though he was outlanded, Fury used showboating to downplay Usyk’s punches and make his own seem more significant, even when they weren't. Fury knows how to use psychology to shape perceptions. Without the showboating, more people would have clearly seen the fight in Usyk’s favour. Commentators missed many of Usyk’s significant punches, while Fury’s antics after his own shots exaggerated their impact. At least they noticed that Fury was showboating even more than usual. This was all part of Fury's strategy. When Usyk landed a big combination on him, Fury tried to brush it off, but when he landed a flicking jab, he acted like he had just scored the biggest KO in boxing history. Fury's chances of hurting Usyk are close to zero. Fury landed his best punch—a right uppercut—flush on Usyk's chin in the sixth round. It was the same punch that knocked Whyte out, but this one landed even better. With Whyte, it was more of a grazing blow, while with Usyk, it connected directly. Usyk wasn’t close to being knocked down or given a standing eight count, let alone knocked out cold. He took Fury's best shot, and ten seconds later, he was landing punches on Fury again. How could Fury hurt him when Usyk handled that punch so well? Just days after the fight, Usyk was reportedly back to training and had already rewatched the match several times to "correct my mistakes." Meanwhile, Fury was out drinking, and it was clear at the Dubois-Joshua fight that he is out of shape again. Usyk is not only the more talented fighter but also the more disciplined one, and the result of the rematch will likely be more of the same—or even worse—for Fury. Even Chisora thinks Usyk should have won by stoppage in the first fight and that Usyk will stop Fury next time.
He looked pretty normal for him. A fat slob as always, but nothing extraordinary like when he was with Ngannou.
He was wearing a baggy black T-shirt, which has the optical effect of making you appear slimmer than you really are, and even then, you could see how Fury's midsection was bloated again. I'd say he is over 300 lbs again.
He may be. But tbf he said he can beat Usyk after 12 pints of beer, so maybe he want to prove that now, lol.
You could be right, hah. I do wonder though if he tries to come in heavier for the rematch. Coming in lighter than he ever was in the last five years clearly didn't work. Maybe he wants to try a different approach in December? That is if he doesn't pull out of course which is always a possibility with him.
What makes you think he'll win? Fury looked fat again on the side-lines for the Dubois - AJ fight, this makes me think we're in for a repeat of last time.
I can understand that. But, as highly as I rate Fury at his best his physique just looks so abominable at this point with his top form at least 4 years and maybe 9 years now removed. Top form Fury is surely a thing of the past and that's what it would take to beat Usyk. Would be pretty epic though to see him win looking like a sack of porridge.
For all those that have zero doubt, I suggest getting a loan of as much as your credit will allow and put it on along with their life savings, as it's just buying money I agree about his physical form and it's why I lean to usyk. But usyk is getting on too I just think he has to have some chance, but Usyk is favourite
Since it is heavyweight boxing, there's no such thing as a zero chance of winning. However, based on the first fight, as well as how even Chisora could land on him or how Ngannou knocked him down, Fury has little more than a puncher's chance at this point. Usyk has a very durable chin, and Fury was never a big puncher. You seem to be a very devoted Fury fan, and you intensely dislike Usyk, calling him a bum and whatnot, but even you have to admit that this is a fair assessment. Giving Fury a 30-40% chance is quite wishful. He was supposed to beat Usyk with one hand tied behind his back and to show that there are weight classes for a reason. Before the first fight, the idea was that even a close fight would count as a loss and Usyk would not only be dominated but knocked out—Fury's own words, not mine. We started off with the 7-foot-tall fighting machine crushing the middleweight pretender, and now we are discussing that Fury won a few rounds in the first match and what percentage he has for the win in the rematch. It's an astronomical turnaround in the narrative. If you consider the form Fury has shown in the last two years (including the Whyte fight which already showed signs of decline), it's not looking great for him.
You are right, i am wrong Usyk is the goat and I will ensure I put everything I own on him winning Thank you for stalking me on the forum and teaching me about boxing. You are a superstar mate and know everything Sincerely, I know your opinion please stop quoting me continuously
