What next for George Groves

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  1. robpalmer135

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    After a fairly impressive US debut, most would imagine George Groves will be back in the UK in the new season defending is Commonwealth title.

    The British title fight with Paul Smith is unlikley. Smiths team don't want the fight and have signed to fight Darren McDermott in October. Add to that 4 other potenial opponents in DeGale, Dilks, Anderson and Quigley are fighting eachother in eliminators in September/October. Groves is unlikley to want to challange the losers of those fights, and the winners will be moving towards fighting eachother for Smiths title which you would think he will vacate.

    Tony Dodson and Stevie McGuire are moving up to Light Heavyweight, and Patrick Mendy is moving down to Middleweight.

    This really leaves only Paul David as a logical domestic opponent for Groves. It would be a good fight but it would take Groves no further in his career progression. It would be a credible fight for a Sky main event on his own as David Haye doesn't look like he is fighting anytime soon. A smaller London venue like the York Hall.

    With him being blocked out of the British title picture, I wouldn't be shocked to see him jump straight up to European level (the same moved pulled by Booth and Haye when Hobson stalled on there fight). Fighting someone ranked by the EBU and in the world rankings like Stas Kashtanov the EBU mandatory, Eduard Gutkanect is a former world title challanger and Karoly Baloszay is a former World Champion. Lolenga Mock holds the EU title and the fact he trouble Haye adds a story.

    He could also look to fight former world champions and challangers or minor world title like Haye did. Issac Chilemba is the IBO champion, someone like William Joppy, Howard Eastman, Lajuan Simon would be decent.

    What do you think?
     
  2. LP_1985

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    i think he should stay fighting in either america or over in germany (america ideally tho) until he can secure a british title fight. the board need to start making these fights happen instead of keeping the belt with 1 promoter
     
  3. robpalmer135

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    how are they keeping it with 1 promoter. they have ordered 2 eliminators?

    also fighting outside of the UK will not boost his chances of a brtiish title fight.
     
  4. GazOC

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    As Rob say, I don't think Groves will "bother" with the British and go for the Euro.
     
  5. LP_1985

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    it just seems to him that warren is lining uo degale for the british but i stand corrected
     
  6. leighton

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    If he can get on a bill in the US some time in September then I would like to see him fight in the US then DeGale before the end of the year if both win. I like what I see of Groves and with him hopefully getting on cards both in the UK and US it will only be a good thing for the lad.
     
  7. Beeston Brawler

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    I'd get him on an undercard tour to pick up experience rather than being concerned with titles.

    Most of the ''journeymen'' in America would be comfortably inside our domestic top 10 anyway, likewise there are many tough foes to be found in Germany.

    Either that or tempt someone like a Montell Griffin over.
     
  8. GazOC

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    Thank **** for that. I saw BB had posted and thought it was going be a "Degale before Xmas or retire" demand.;)
     
  9. Beeston Brawler

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    :lol:

    Ideally they should :yep

    That said, they are both pretty young and have different promoters so it's obviously not straight forward..... a year from now would be fine.

    It's these ''let's wait until they both hold a world title - and not before'' clowns that wind me up :lol:

    Haye should fight a Klitschko or retire though :deal
     
  10. GazOC

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    Ideally let Degale get the Brit, Groves the Euro and they can fight an eliminator for a world title shot next summer/ autumn.

    The way I can realistically see it happening is one picks up a Mickey Mouse world title and defends against the other guy. They'll both earn well without having to prove they are the best in world before they fight.

    Oh, and don't hold your breath for Haye to retire while he's on £4 million a fight....;)
     
  11. Beeston Brawler

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    That would be acceptable.

    It's just a shame that we don't have proper domestic rivalries anymore, where half the British champions aren't the best in their weightclass, and many of the challengers very average.

    If I was on £4m a fight I wouldn't be doing what Haye is doing - I'd have Vitali Klitschko signed up for this weekend. And next. And the one after that.

    :yep
     
  12. GazOC

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    Beeston, if you were a boxer and in charge of your own career you'd be punchy, blind and skint within the first 10 fights.:p
     
  13. Beeston Brawler

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    I'm punchy, nearly blind and skint now, no need to get punched in the face for other people's entertainment :D
     
  14. robpalmer135

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    the problem with him fighting in the US and Germany are

    a) He won't earn much money fighting on undercard. Headlining a sky main event will be better for for his bank balance.
    b) He won't build a fan base in the UK as a ticket seller or on TV.
     
  15. Beeston Brawler

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    Both points are true.

    It all depends on what they want to do with him over the next couple of years.

    The domestic fighters that are on his radar and vice versa in the immediate future aren't that cracking - the money might be better but a few easy stoppages will be of less benefit than a similar number of tough 8 or 10 rounders.