what next for ricky burns?

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  1. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    for starters well done ricky for getting the win on saturday, but where would you like to see him next?

    world title: I'm sure loads of people would love to se him have a crack at a world title again.

    euro level: would still be a step up and would show us if he has it left to mount a challenge for a world title.

    domestic/commonwealth level: good domestic clashes to be had at this level and could make a bit of money

    retire: he still doesn't look like he is improving and might be good idea for him to get out with the win.
     
  2. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i'll go with retire, i know i'll get a lot of stick but hear me out!!

    ricky got the win on saturday but admitted afterwards that he wasn't listening to sims in the corner, billy nelson has also said that this is the case in the past when working with him near the end.

    rickys best weapon was his jab and no fear attitude and he doesn't use his jab properly anymore and his no fear attitude is gone. ricky either clams up against the ropes when the opponent throws punches or after he throws his own punches he falls in too close so the opponent can't hit him.

    i was one of rickys biggest fans and travelled to all of his big fights in glasgow but i would love him to hang them up before he becomes another stepping stone for the likes of luke campbell, richard commey etc

    he never looked comfortable against the aussie on saturday who imo wouldnt win the english title over here
     
  3. Jacko

    Jacko Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A change of attitude in terms of his tactics ( go back to what won him world titles) or retire.

    Ricky is vastly becoming a gate keeper at fringe world level and, for me, this is due more to his tactics rather than noticeable physical degradation.
     
  4. N17

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    Prizefighter.

    :lol: I'm joking, it must be hard for Burn's to get himself up for a fight like that after big world title fights not that long ago but where have the basics gone?

    Maybe Billy Nelson can shed some light on it, what has happened to all the good things Ricky used to do? The jab? Has Ricky lost his?

    The slightly worrying thing was although what he was doing was enough to have him winning the fight he didn't adjust, he didn't give himself a little space to start snapping out a jab and work off of it, he was constantly crowding his work. Burns fought like a brawler and mauler and it really doesn't suit him.

    Sims may well be a good trainer, I'm not in his gym watching what goes on and I haven't trained a world champion but I think his style of training and tactical awareness is all wrong for Ricky, it might well work for others but trainer and boxer need to come together and fit, it does not seem like it's working in my opinion.
     
  5. beachie17

    beachie17 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He wont retire, he said in an interview he loves fighting so I don't think he will stop regardless of the level he is at, I think he will probably look to world level and look to gain a higher world ranking with his next fight.
     
  6. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Spot on !! The thing that gets pre Billy Nelsopn Ricky was fringe British class, he then clearly grafted his ***** off and obviously listened to his trainer and won 2 world titles, then he stopped listening to his trainer, has got worse since (though he went up a level in competition so think he would have fell short anyway) and moved trainers and still dont listen and is getting worse. Nice guy everyone says but is he thick ? As surely he must notice when he has listened to his trainer(s) he has done much better. If I was Sims and he would not listen I would part company with him. Even when Andy Scott asked him on Sky why didnt you not listen to your trainer he looked lost and did not know how to answer it.
     
  7. likemike31

    likemike31 Active Member Full Member

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    He needs the money, surely that's why he soldiers on.


    If hearn can make him some dough and he cashes out in a 'Hearn 50/50' against campbell or someone similar, that'll be nice to see.
     
  8. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i totally agree, if tony sims has any respect for himself as a coach he need stop tell ricky that he can no longer work with him and that it would be best if they parted. sims will never manage to get ricky back to world level even if he does start listening so will always be blamed with rickys demise.

    i personally think he would be better back in scotland with either peter harrison or terry mccormack, i know I've been harsh towards terry in other threads but imo he could do a good job with ricky and he wouldn't be scared to tell him his faults etc
     
  9. moog

    moog Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I know you listen to all Joe Gallagher's fighters they all say the same he is the boss, we do as we are told, look at the results. As a boxer surely if you don't listen because u don't value your trainers opinions u are best leaving them and if its just because your arrogant and think you know best like Ricky someone close to you should give you a kick up the **** and tell you it straight.
     
  10. Pez

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    I think by the sounds of it Ricky needs the money so will fight on. There's nothing wrong with fighting on, but he's not at world level anymore. Maybe fight at British/Commonwealth level for a few fights before a fight with Campbell for decent money.
     
  11. Canvassed

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    From a selfish point of view i would love it for Ricky to retire.

    I just hate watching the guy fight these days, he's unbelievably boring and always ends up in a horrible atmosphere killing s****py fight. Definitely deserves to be much further down the card.
     
  12. jordan1989

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    I would love to see Ricky get another crack at a world title as someone else said I don't think he's shot because he fought well against Figueroa who no one gave him a hope in hell against I just think he can't get up for these types of fights but he needs to start listening to Tony, The first time he stepped off with a 3 punch combo he stopped the guy.
     
  13. korn96

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    cash out with one more big fight he looked awful at the weekend get one more pay day and get out
     
  14. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i personally don't think he boxed well at all against figueroa, he survived at best and at no time took control of the fight. we will see the opposite of when he fought crawford. crawford has went on to prove he is a class act whereas figueroa will be found out very quickly at the top level unless he is kept away from the top dogs at light welterweight.
     
  15. supremo

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    He isn't rich so why would he retire? His health isn't in imminent danger and he likes what he does. Who cares about records? I'd rather retire with cash to set me up for the rest of my life than retire skint but knowing I've only lsot 5 fights....

    He looed poor though and his approach to the fight was bizarre. I think Ricky over achieved for the talent he had but that was due to his hunger and drive but that isn't there any more.