what next for ricky burns?

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  1. sikeside

    sikeside Well-Known Member Full Member

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    boxing crazy one of our own and turning into a snake
     
  2. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i have to agree with you there, at 1 time ricky looked like he would be no more than domestic level but at the same time i saw him give alex arthur kittens at the meadowbank arena and if it wasn't for rickys fans there would have been no atmosphere. i bet alex didn't sell 50 tickets in his own home town.lol
     
  3. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    maybe he has just taken a leaf out of your book and talks about people behind their back? listen at the end of the day lets just get back to the boxing talk and i hope you stop taking every opinion that you don't agree with so seriously by ranting and trying to demean people because as I've said before you can be interesting with your views and opinions but touchy when people disagree.

    of course john will talk to you about working with you now because he has a couple of fighters and it will be handy for sparring and getting on the lock stock shows. it makes sense to get back speaking to you to help further his boxers and he can learn off you and the experiences you have had so far in your coaching career.
     
  4. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    listen mate i am as passionate about scottish boxing but just because billy is "in the know" as he claims doesn't mean what i or any other poster deserves to be demeaned by him. i know you are one of his biggest fans on here and usually back him to the hilt but he really has to learn to embrace the opinions of others instead of trying to belittle the people who don't agree with him. lets just get back to speaking boxing.
     
  5. sikeside

    sikeside Well-Known Member Full Member

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    funny a you thought started sayin folk didnt like him now u want to get back talking boxing
     
  6. Solarse

    Solarse Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Fair do's !!:good
     
  7. billy nelson

    billy nelson the fighting scots gym Full Member

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    Ive never said in in the know but what i do know is your talking **** about McCarron, my advice to you is try and concentrate on your own fighters and create a champion.
    you dont even know me i think, ive been told what club your attached too, when i was told it never suprised me in the slightest,has said before try and achieve what others have instead of trying to belittle them
     
  8. mcvey

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    A great guy with loads of guts, he was overated to begin with and fortunate to receive a draw against Beltran.
    He is done at world level where he was only marginally acceptable imo.
     
  9. Brixton Bomber

    Brixton Bomber Obsessed with Boxing banned Full Member

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    Spot on! My thoughts exactly. :good
     
  10. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    as i have stated earlier i have no interest in becoming involved in the professional side of boxing. it stinks, the politics stink and most of the people involved aren't interested in the boxers but just what they can get out of the boxers. if any of my other boxers wanted to turn over then i would have no problem but they would do it without me beside them.

    I'm happy with what i am achieving at my level which isn't very high but i keep young kids off the streets and try to make them better people for the life ahead. i don't have an ego and i get lots of respect from the people that matter most family, friends and my boxers.

    i do wish you the best with your upcoming fighters the best for the future and if they are in decent fights i will be attending the shows to give my support as a fan.

    but i stand by what i said that i don't think you will ever have another fighter at world level that will last 10 fights +. that is not belittling you or what you have achieved because you and ricky did amazingly well but in the last 30 years how many scottish fighters have stayed at world level for any amount of time? scott, ricky and thats it and i don't see that changing with the talent pool we currently have so that is why i don't think you will ever reach the heights you did with ricky.
     
  11. DoubleEdge

    DoubleEdge The king of Kings banned

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    Everyone has a ego, yours manifest as being self righteous and above those who you consider to be ''corrupted''
     
  12. supremo

    supremo Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I don't go about making personal digs at individual posters using information I have gained in my real life. If you are going to bring real life information and digs to a message board, then do it under your real name.
     
  13. billy nelson

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    I understand what you say about the politics within the sport but in fairness in the amatuers its rife, certain clubs including one in Edinburgh get huge favours given to them, why i couldn't say but they do and everyone knows it, including scotland coaches which in itself is rather shocking.
    I admire you and all coaches for giving there time usally for free the develop the talent within Scotland and keeping kids of the street, don't think for a minute pro trainers all make exceptional money they certainly don't, i love doing what i do and was lucky to make some good money when Ricky was the champion but i earned every penny, look how easy that can be taken away from you with peoples influences who think they know whats better for the fighter, i ended up a full time coach and wasn't paid in full for the Mitchell fight because of Ricky's dispute with his previous promoter which left me two thirds short off what i should have been paid, nothing was said or done regarding that by the BBBofC who stated in a letter to me they couldn't pursue it because the fight wasn't sanctioned by the BBBof C, listen to who sanctioned the fight from Micheal Buffer in the intro to the fight.
    I will prove you wrong by winning many more titles :good
     
  14. boxingcrazy

    boxingcrazy Boxing Addict Full Member

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    i hope you go on to win multiple world titles and bring big time boxing back to scotland. and i would happily be glad for me to be wrong if it means scotland is back on the boxing map.

    with regards to you not being paid, that is exactly the kind of thing i am on about with the professional sport and a reason i wouldn't be involved. the bbboc need to make sure these type of situations are properly dealt with and the people involved should lose their ability to be involved in the sport. it is totally out of order for you to have lost out on monies earned because of a corrupt promoter. but imo all promoters are the same, the boxers are just a number and get used as such.
     
  15. Makingweight

    Makingweight Boxing Addict Full Member

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    There is much I agree with in your post.

    It does happen the world over and lets put it like this,the lack of payment of a fighter any pro level it seems always coincides with the fighters contract about to expire,history tells us nothing different......imo.

    I know of both sides of the coin and it comes down to decent management,guidance do your homework before you sign on as a pro.Promoters will pay ballpark figures and starting out you would be aware it's all about ticket sales,all business it is what it is.

    For the novice pro building a fan base many realize quickly after the pro debut when you get a good turnout it can become a minefield,without the right support.

    To train hard put your life and soul into training then fighting and not being paid,no wonder many walk away and rightly bitter.

    BBBOC and other bodies should clean it up by insisting the fighters money is paid by promoters into an escrow account.Baring a fighter failing a drug test,questionable performance it would at least protect the most affected.... the fighters.

    Guess it would be too easy?