What now for Loma?

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  1. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Germans like to cheer for a few local favorites, but even then they had only one superstar: Maske. Their greatest attraction in the last 20 years has to be Sven Ottke, lol.
     
  2. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    He should never fight in the US again that's for goddamn sure. No foreigner ever should until they can learn to stop robbing them all the time and rigging the deck with a home ref and three home judges for world title fights. Happens a scandalous amount of the time over there but it literally doesn't happen anywhere else in the world. How the hell do they get away with that? It's insane. And people wonder why this keeps happening time and time again to foreigners over there?

    Even for non-world title fights over here between a Brit and a foreigner or European title fights the judges will often be neutral or you'll have one neutral, one home, one from the visiting fighter's country

    It's getting to be a weekly thing

    Last week the most corrupt **** ever with Barroso and also Botirzhon Akhmedov in the undercard and I'll wager they probably weren't the only ones last week? @CST80

    This week Loma vs Haney

    Foreigners have got to fight in the US to prove themselves and if they don't they ain't legit but when they do the deck is stacked with a home ref and three US judges. But on the rare occasions American fighters use their passports they'll insist on neutral judges and will get them too

    Look at this

    Absolutely disgusting

    Loma vs Haney, Salido, the scandalous 119 card against Teofimo when he clearly swept the vast majority of the rounds in the second half of the fight. The scandalous 114-114 card against GRJ when Loma beat the **** out of GRJ and won by 10 rounds.

    Salido 100% should've been DQ'd against Loma. He was outlanded by like 24 shots but over a third of his total punch connects were low and awful lot flagrantly low and in full view of the most corrupt sack of **** ref in the game Laurence Cole. Salido landed 50-60 low blows and wasn't deducted a single point. Had he deducted just one the fight would've been a draw.

    Lisa Giampa: Loma vs GRJ 114-114

    Read that again. Loma beat the crap out of GRJ. He won 10 rounds easy

    Julie Lederman: Lopez vs Loma 119–109

    Loma clearly swept the vast majority of the rounds in the second half of the fight

    Patricia Morse Jarman: Loma vs Nakatani 78-73

    She gave Nakatani 2 rounds in a one-sided massacre where Loma beat Nakatani half to death

    Dave Moretti 116-112 for Haney

    He scored round 10 for Haney

    And FTR I have nothing whatsoever against American people. I like them a lot. My issue is with this home ref and three home judges BS for world title fights between an American and a foreigner.
     
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  3. ashishwarrior

    ashishwarrior I'm vital ! Full Member

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    Sure all built on liberating war mongering corruption
    And you wonder why the world hates america
    America couldn't lie straight in bed never mind standing up straight
    Crooked as a dogs back **** soaked leg
     
  4. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Cope.
    Americans waste so much money on military. They don't get any profits from it.

    Poor morons across the globe seethe over it.
     
  5. Themessiah

    Themessiah El Jefe Full Member

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    Klitschko brothers were very popular in Germany
     
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  6. McGrain

    McGrain Diamond Dog Staff Member

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    I think - i'm not expert - but I think their biggest attraction in the last 20 years was Wladimir Klitschko.
     
  7. CleneloAnavarez

    CleneloAnavarez Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Sorry, I don't think of either as Germans. Slipped my mind, despite Wladimir living there permanently.
     
  8. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Over the last 3 weeks, there's been several sketchy decisions. On 4/30/23 Frederik Lawson who was the American A-side, got a gift against a less marketable Mexican American in Estevan Villalobos. While in Mexico, still it was promoted by Golden Boy, so on 5/6/23 Gabriel Gollaz Valenzuela got one of the more egregious gifts I've seen lately over Steve Spark. Then on 5/13/23 on the Romero-Barroso undercard, bot only did Akhmedov get shafted, but so did Esteuri Suero who got screwed against Starling Castillo, who didn't come close to winning the fight. Granted, Suero is an a fairly new American citizen and Castillo isn't. Again, it's a who can make them the most money. So it's either a clearcut Nationalistic thing and when that isn't the case, it's a money thing.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Thanks. I knew there would be more. Not that many though. As you know there were a few real bad ones over in Europe too with Soro and Ngabu but it's so commonplace I not only expect it I get proven right time and time again after predicting it
     
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  10. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yeah, this year it's been all over the place, and the number of them has been off the charts. Quite frankly, it's shaping up to be a banner year for worldwide robberies. Although the US is still leading the pack.

    1/25/23 - Wulan Tuolehazi vs. Sho Kimura - Majority Draw in Thailand
    1/28/23 - Artem Dalakian vs. David Jimenez - Dalakian UD in the UK
    2/2/23 - Erik Bazinyan vs. Alantez Fox - Bazinyan MD in Canada
    2/4/23 - Timo Schwarzkopf vs. Miguel Vazquez - Schwarzkopf UD in Germany
    2/17/23 - Ardreal Holmes vs. Ismael Villarreal - Holmes SD in the USA
    2/23/23 - Manuel Flores vs. Franklin Gonzalez - Flores SD in the USA
    3/11/23 - Malik Zinad vs. Mickael Diallo - Zinad UD in France
    3/11/23 - Farrhad Saad vs. Macaulay McGowan - Majority Draw in France
    3/12/23 - Koen Mazoudier vs. Ben Mahoney - Split Draw in Australia
    3/17/23 - Ijaz Ahmed vs. Marcel Braithwaite - Split Draw in the UK
    3/18/23 - Kureysh Sagov vs. Ali Baloyev II - Majority Draw in UAE
    3/18/23 - Ruslan Fayfer vs. German Garcia Montes - Fayfer SD in UAE
    3/18/23 - Eric Tudor vs. Damoni Cato-Cain - Tudor UD in the USA
    3/24/23 - Conah Walker vs. Kane Gardner - Gardner PTS in the UK
    3/25/23 - Michael Gomez Jnr vs. Levi Giles - Gomez SD in the UK
    3/25/23 - Lawrence Okolie vs. David Light - Okolie UD in the UK
    3/25/23 - Chris Colbert vs. Jose Valenzuela - Colbert UD in the USA
    4/1/23 - Roy Jones Jr. vs. Anthony Pettis - Pettis MD in the USA
    4/5/23 - Alexander Duran vs. Carlos Sanchez - Sanchez UD in Mexico
    4/6/23 - Angel Acosta vs. Angelino Cordova - Cordova UD in the USA
    4/7/23 - Raul Garcia vs. Robert Terry - Split Draw in the USA
    4/28/23 - Jordy Weiss vs. Jon Miguez - Split Draw in France
    4/30/23 - Frederik Lawson vs. Estevan Villalobos - Lawson UD in the USA
    4/30/23 - Brandon Cook vs. Gino Natalio Godoy - Cook SD in Canada
    5/5/23 - Stephanie Silva vs. Mailys Gangloff - Silva UD in Italy
    5/5/23 - Flavius Biea vs. Juan Jose Velasco - Biea SD in Romania
    5/6/23 - Evgeny Tishchenko vs. Yves Ngabu - Tishchenko SD in Russia
    5/6/23 - Zhora Hamazaryan vs. Francisco Fonseca - Hamazaryan UD in Russia
    5/6/23 - Magomed Kurbanov vs. Michel Soro - Kurbanov SD in Russia
    5/6/23 - Gabriel Gollaz Valenzuela vs. Steve Spark - Valenzuela SD in Mexico
    5/6/23 - Orlando Mosquera vs. Ruben Nestor Neri Munoz - Mosquera UD in Panama
    5/13/23 - Vince Paras vs. Ayumu Hanada - Paras UD in The Philippines
    5/13/23 - Fillipus Nghitumbwa vs. John Riel Casimero - Casimero UD in The Philippines
    5/13/23 - Esteuri Suero vs. Starling Castillo - Castillo UD in the USA
    5/13/23 - Kenneth Sims vs. Batyr Akhmedov - Sims MD in the USA
    5/20/23 - Dennis Hogan vs. James Metcalf - Metcalf UD in the UK
    5/20/23 - Devin Haney vs. Vasyl Lomachenko - Haney UD in the USA
     
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  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Disgusting. Did you know that after neutral judges had been agreed on for Gabriel Gollaz vs Spark they replaced two of them at the last minute with ones from Guadalajara ie. Gollaz's backyard?
     
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  12. Badbot

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    Wlad vs Chambers broke some sort of record in Germany. I think they had over 12 million households tuning in.
     
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  13. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Yep, I heard it on the broadcast. I really should start adding all of those little corrupt factoids to my thread.
     
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  14. SergioJ91

    SergioJ91 Active Member Full Member

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    Retire. Tank would knock him out, Stevenson outclass him.
     
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  15. Badbot

    Badbot I Am An Actual Pro. Full Member

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    Loma should move back down.
    He clearly can´t make 126 nor should he at the age of 35, but he was 144lbs during the WBC 30 day weigh in vs Capbell. And I doubt he has put on any real weight since then.
    Move down to 130 and clean house. He would be favored vs any of the top 10 there.