What other light heavyweight champion....

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  1. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Could have dethroned heavyweight champ Larry Holmes in '85?
    No Charles, no Tunney, talking light heavyweight champions only....
     
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  2. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Billy Conn,Archie Moore maybe?
     
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  3. Dempsey1238

    Dempsey1238 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I give Moore a great shot.
     
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  4. Bill1234

    Bill1234 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not many at all. Spinks won/kept the title away from Holmes controversialy as it is, but that is a different matter. Maybe a game Archie Moore, which I still highly doubt.
     
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  5. Pat_Lowe

    Pat_Lowe Active Member Full Member

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    The rematch was controversial, not Spinks' title winning effort. The only thing controversial about that was what Holmes said at the press conference afterwards.
     
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  6. Longhhorn71

    Longhhorn71 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Southpaw Michael Moorer when he had just moved up to heavywt and
    was knocking people out.

    On his best night and Holme's worst night, he might have won (just keep Teddy Atlas out of the corner and trying to take credit for the win).
     
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  7. ironchamp

    ironchamp Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Moore and Conn both get stopped Late.
     
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  8. Joe E

    Joe E Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Maybe.But remember,Larry wasn't the kind of puncher that could paralyze a Man with 1 or 2 shots,and Larry wasn't a good finisher.Conn was quick on his Feet, had quick Hands and could Box well.I'd give Him a good shot.
     
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  9. Boilermaker

    Boilermaker Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    A light heavy version of Toney would have to be a very good chance. Harry Greb would make an interesting fight, as would Joe Choynski. Saying that, I would be surprised if any of these ended up beating Holmes.
     
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  10. janitor

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    Verry verry few.

    We have said champions so that rules out Langford Charles and Tunney who are perhaps the three best light heavyweight candidates.

    Moore and Conn would have a shot as others have said. Throw in Tommy Loughran for good measure.
     
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  11. ChrisPontius

    ChrisPontius March 8th, 1971 Full Member

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    What, apart from your own opinion and Larry's book, do you have to back the controversial claim up? I'm talking about the first fight, by the way.
     
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  12. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Very interesting pick...that Tommy Loughran against the older Holmes....
    Moore is interesting as well...but I think even the older Holmes dictates with the jab against Moore.
    Conn and Loughran are somewhat similar...but I feel Loughran could stay within a disciplined approach...Very difficult propositon though.
     
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  13. Minotauro

    Minotauro Boxing Addict Full Member

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    At that stage Holmes had lost a fair amount of his speed so someone like Loughran or Jones could win although they might get stopped late. The best bet for me would be Conn.
     
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  14. DamonD

    DamonD Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I always thought the first Spinks win over Holmes was close but fair and legit. Is there some feeling differently?
     
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  15. dpw417

    dpw417 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I think the '85 Larry Holmes defeats every lightheavy champion (except one).
    Moore presents some problems, but I feel the size differential and Holme's jab are the keys to his dictating the pace of their fight. Holmes W15
    Loughran and the older Holmes would engage in an jabfest, but Larry would start investing in body shots own the stretch of the bout...If Loughran elected to stay away, Holmes would still control the tempo due to his size.Holmes W15.
    Michael Moorer is an interesting pick as well. Holmes may be surprised at Moorer's power at first...but Larry has pretty much seen it all. I think he would catch Moorer in a lapse in concentration in the 12 round. Holmes TKO 12.
    Roy Jones? this could be really toughdue to Jones' speed and unorthadox moves...Spink's unorthaox approach helped him immensely against holmes I felt...Holmes has to catch him to beat him...Ruiz touched him with a few rights...Holmes could possibly do it...but he couldn't pull the trigger against Spinks, until the 14th...Spinks survived...Jones won't...Holmes TKO14
    That's how I feel....Opinions?
     
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