What pathetic controversy will Floyd use to sell the rematch?

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  1. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    You're taking the semantics of this to a whole new level. When I'm saying Floyd can pick the ref, I don't mean he can actually say "I want that ref". What he more than likely CAN do is reject a referee he feels will give Maidana a pass for rough housing.

    You're going to honestly sit there and tell me the guy that stacks:

    blood testing demands
    catchweights
    gloves
    venue

    in his favor isn't going to do the same thing when it comes to choosing the ref? Come ON.
     
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  2. LoRd_inFamousX1

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  3. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    Also, Stylez G, here is EXACTLY what I wrote on page 1:

    "LOL if you think Floyd won't have any influence over the ref chosen. He has the clout to deny a ref if he so wishes."

    I didn't say he chose the ref, I said he has influence over the ref that's chosen. BIG DIFFERENCE. And he can deny a ref if he so chooses. Then I posted an example of another fighter doing it. Don't try and twist my words.
     
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  4. dodong

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    ooow....:verysad
     
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  5. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    Arguments can me made two ways: Maidana needs less padding to win. You basically said it yourself.
     
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  6. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    What's wrong with having a ref that doesn't allow dirty tactics?
     
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  7. Stylez G.

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    Do you know the extent to which a fighter can object to a referee in Vegas? Is it a situation where the appointed ref can only work the fight if both fighters sign off? Is it a situation where if a valid concern is raised by a fighter, then a panel has to decide if the ref stays?

    How is blood testing stacking anything? The only way a fighter's perfomance could suffer from it is if they taking something illegel.

    He's asked one fighter to come down in weight and meet him at a CW.

    I don't agree that he should dictate that Maidana can't wear apporoved gloves. But if that's such a big deal, then didn't Oscar stack the deck against Mayweather in their fight?

    This is a joke. He choses the venue that generates the most money. That's common sense. The Castillo fight is only fight where you can argue he received a favorable decison, and he didn't pick the venue in that fight.

    Come on, with these weak arguments. Having stipulations which are perfectly acceptable and widely practiced is completely different from dictating who the referee is. Mayweather cannot pick the referee and he doesn't have the authority to unilaterally dismiss a referee either.
     
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  8. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    This point of view is irrelevant if they're commission-approved gloves. Floyd basically forced Maidana not to wear gloves that were approved for use. The mx-style glove has been used by many fighters before as was mentioned. That's why he paid Maidana off.

    Time to find another way to rationalize Floyd stacking the deck in his favour, friend.
     
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  9. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    He asked a fighter to come down in weight after meeting another fighter (cotto) at the full weight. ***** move. And yes, I know Pacquiao did the same thing, equally ***** move.

    He paid maidana off so as to not wear gloves that were approved for use by the commission.

    He demanded blood testing outside and beyond the agreed stipulations of the bout.

    Also, who cares about what Oscar did to stack the deck in his fight? We're talking about Floyd here. Two wrongs don't make a right.
     
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  10. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    And the commission declined the first pair, so was Maidana trying to cheat? Why should one fighter have a stronger glove than the other? That's an unfair advantage.
     
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  11. LoRd_inFamousX1

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    Mayweather didn't like the way he beat Maidana, so he wants to embarrass Maidana in the rematch.
     
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  12. Stylez G.

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    If he can unilaterally deny a ref if he so chooses, then he can just keep denying refs until he gets the one he wants. That's the same as picking out the ref. And if he can unilaterally deny a ref, then so can Maidana.
     
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  13. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    He didn't pay Maidana off. And requesting blood testing isn't "beyond the agreed stipulations". They hadn't agreed yet :nut
     
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  14. janeschicken

    janeschicken hard work! deadicayshin! Full Member

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    There were dozens of other mx gloves there shrinkwrapped that could have been used, Floyd forced him to wear the Powerlock ones. And paid Maidana off to do so. And you really want to argue whether he would try to influence the ref in the next fight? LOL, please.
     
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  15. alexthegreatmc

    alexthegreatmc Sound logic and reason. You're welcome! Full Member

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    So he should have a ref that allows dirty tactics?
     
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