What people don't realize about Sugar Ray Leonard's Greatness is...

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Two of my all-time favorite vids. The Layla instrumental is killer.

 

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Floyd Mayweather Sr, Randy Shields, Johnny Gant, Tony Chiaverini, Pete Ranzany and Andy Price were all rated at the time time Ray beat them on the come up to his shot at the Welterweight title.

 

Indeed.:deal
I'm sure Ranzany was the one were Ray was fired up to **** and had to be pulled off.:think:huh
Can you confirm that HOI?

 

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Thank you.:good
Not quite pulled off,but that was the one I had in mind.With that accuracy and those bodyshots,it's easy to see why people don't rate him.:think

 

Blazing fast hands, and not because it was Ranzany. He beat Benitez to the punch too.

Back on Leonard vs Robinson for a second. SRL has a real problem on his hands, buddy.

LEONARD:

09/78: Floyd Mayweather W-TKO10 (147)
10/78: Randy Shields W-UD10 (147)
01/79: Johnny Gant W-TKO8 (147)
06/79: Tony Chiaverini W-RTD4 (154)
08/79: Pete Ranzany W-TKO4 (147)
09/79: Andy Price W-KO1 (147)
11/79: Wilfred Benitez W-TKO15 (147) [Wins WW Title]
03/80: Dave Green W-KO4 (147) [Retains WW Title]
06/80: Roberto Duran L-UD15 (147) [Loses WW Title]
11/80: Roberto Duran W-TKO8 (147) [Wins WW Title]
06/81: Ayub Kalule W-TKO9 (154) [Wins LMW Title]
09/81: Thomas Hearns W-TKO14 (147) [Retains WW Title]
02/82: Bruce Finch W-TKO3 (147) [Retains WW Title]
04/87: Marvin Hagler W-SD12 (160) [Wins MW Title]
11/88: Donny Lalonde W-TKO9 (168 )
06/89: Thomas Hearns "D-PTS12" (168 )
12/89: Roberto Duran W-UD12 (160)
02/91: Terry Norris L-UD12 (154)

ROBINSON:

07/41: Sammy Angott W-UD10 (135)
10/41: Fritzie Zivic W-UD10 (147)
01/42: Fritzie Zivic W-TKO10 (147)
03/42: Norman Rubio W-TKO8 (147)
07/42: Sammy Angott W-UD10 (147)
08/42: Tony Motisi W-KO1 (147)
10/42: Jake LaMotta W-UD10 (160)
10/42: Izzy Jannazzo W-UD10 (147)
12/42: Izzy Jannazzo W-TKO8 (147)
02/43: Jake LaMotta L-UD10 (160)
02/43: Jackie Wilson W-MD10 (147)
02/43: Jake LaMotta W-UD10 (160)
07/43: Ralph Zanelli W-UD10 (160)
08/43: Henry Armstrong W-UD10 (147)
11/44: Vic Dellicurti W-UD10 (160)
01/45: Tommy Bell W-UD10 (147)
02/45: George Costner W-KO1 (147)
02/45: Jake LaMotta W-UD10 (160)
05/45: Jose Basora D-PTS (160)
06/45: Jimmy McDaniels W-KO2 (147)
09/45: Jake LaMotta W-SD12
12/46: Tommy Bell W-UD15 (147) [Wins WW Title]
05/47: Georgie Abrams W-SD10 (160)
06/47: Jimmy Doyle W-TKO8 (147) [Retains WW Title]
06/48: Bernard Docusen W-UD15 (147) [Retains WW Title]
09/48: Kid Gavilan W-UD15 (147)
07/49: Kid Gavilan W-UD15 (147) [Retains WW Title]
08/49: Steve Belloise W-TKO7 (160)
04/50: Ray Barnes W-UD10 (160)
06/50: Robert Villemain W-UD15 (160)
08/50: Charley Fusari W-UD15 (147) [Retains WW Title]
08/50: Jose Basora W-KO1 (160)
10/50: Carl Olson W-KO12 (160)
11/50: Bobby Dykes W-MD10 (160)
12/50: Robert Villemain W-TKO9 (160)
02/51: Jake LaMotta W-TKO13 (160) [Wins MW Title]
07/51: Randy Turpin L-UD15 (160) [Loses MW Title]
09/51: Randy Turpin W-TKO10 (160) [Wins MW Title]
03/52: Carl Olson W-UD15 (160) [Retains MW Title]
04/52: Rocky Graziano W-KO3 (160) [Retains MW Title]
06/52: Joey Maxim L-TKO14 (175) [LHW Title]
07/55: Rocky Castellani W-SD10 (160)
12/55: Carl Olson W-KO2 (160) [Wins MW Title]
05/56: Carl Olson W-KO4 (160) [Retains MW Title]
01/57: Gene Fullmer L-UD15 (160) [Loses MW Title]
05/57: Gene Fullmer W-KO5 (160) [Wins MW Title]
09/57: Carmen Basilio L-SD15 (160) [Loses MW Title]
03/58: Carmen Basilio W-SD15 (160) [Wins MW Title]
10/61: Denny Moyer W-UD10 (160)
01/63: Ralph Dupas W-SD10 (160)

Stopped included losses around 1958 considering he had 150 fights or so by then. He was 73-1 when he got his shot at the Welterweight title and 120-1 when he first challenged for and won the middleweight title. These are fighters rated at the time, HOF bolded.

 

Who gives a ****?
The best thread I ever saw suggested SRR went into WITSEC,had plastic surgery,then came out as SRL.:rofl
Ray Charles Leonard all the way baby.Those old timers didn't even have primary colours in those days.:bart

 

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Shameless.

"Someone once said there was a comparison between Sugar Ray Leonard and Sugar Ray Robinson. Believe me, there's no comparison. Sugar Ray Robinson was the greatest."

- Ray Charles Leonard

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Come on man! That was the yeyo talking!:bart

 

What I want to know is... Who said there was ever a comparison? :shock: :rofl

 

1. he really didn't win that fight with hagler. he got a gift decision.

2. he needed a **** load of stipulations and had to con hagler to go easy so the fans would want the rematch.

3. he knew he got a gift which is why he never gave marvin the rematch he promised him.

4. he won the no mas fight because duran killed himself to make weight. he did nothing to make duran quit.

5. **** leonard.

 

**** all that.:yep

Mirror mirror on the wall,whose Sugar tastes the sweetest of all?:think

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**** you

 

sorry ray. why did u wait until '89 to rematch duran u scary bastid???