What percentage would you give Pac beating Canelo 154?

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  1. this_and_that

    this_and_that Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That's just absurd.
    Pac outboxes his opponents all the time with a combination of good footwork and handspeed. On offense he puts a good combination of feints, parries and head movements, coupled with angles that only he can create and execute.
    The only boxers that I can legitimately say that he didn't outbox since he moved up in weight is JMM and maybe Bradley.
    He outboxed Diaz. Dude was getting countered over and over again.
    He outboxed ODLH. Beautifully at that.
    He outboxed Hatton. Nearly all the shots that put Hatton down were counters.
    He outboxed Cotto. Totally shutting down Cotto's jab.
    He overwhelmed Clottey. Can't outbox a guy who doesn't throw though.
    He outboxed Margarito in a similar fashion that he outboxed ODLH, albeit more aggressive this time.
    He outboxed Mosley. Dude went down on a counter combination and wasn't able to throw with confidence since then. He was also always getting countered by that straight left.
    He outclassed Bradley. Not outboxed, but ouclass. Sure Bradley is a good boxer, but Pac's hands were simply too fast.
    He outboxed Rios. It's like ODLH and Margarito all over again.

    If you don't understand that then you seriously do not understand either the fundamentals of boxing or what getting outboxed means.
    Either that or you have to take off Floyd's nuts in your mouth.

    Pac ENDS his fights by overwhelming his opponents, but he first outboxes them to shut down their offense completely.
    People who overwhelms are the likes of Margarito and Rios.
     
  2. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Gotta agree with this. He's outboxed all of his opponents 135 and up spare for JMM twice and he has done so by a dramatic margin.

    However if I'm playing devil's advocate...
    -The only real good boxers at the time of the fights on that list, in the sense of boxing as opposed to brawling, pressuring, banging, slugging, etc (not talking about overall ranking or talent), are Cotto and Bradley and he struggled more against Bradley than anyone other than JMM in that stretch. Oscar and Clottey didn't exactly show up with their boxing shoes for their fights.
    -We can't forget about the JMM fights, one which he was thoroughly outboxed and the other which was a brawl he defeated by the most basics of techniques and counters. These fights are half the fights he has had in the past 2.5 years, which is most relevant to recent form. And once again, one of those other two fights were the Bradley fight, where he faced one of the most athletic boxers of his career and lost. Although I thought he won, he won on aggression and the rounds were close due to Bradley's ability to outbox in spots.
    -130 and below days, he didn't exactly fight that many guys who were movers, counter punchers, or defensive minded fighters.

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    He outboxes more so than overwhelms his opponents ever since the Hatton fight for sure. He has great power but nothing ATG legendary in the sense that he just brute slugs with guys all the time. I don't think his timing is great but I think all his other offensive attributes are amazing, which have allowed him to outbox many in the past.
     
  3. tliang1000

    tliang1000 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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  4. Nonito Smoak

    Nonito Smoak Ioka>Lomo, sorry my dudes Full Member

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    Won't ever happen. But:
    33%
    ...? A little less?
    I dunno...
     
  5. icha

    icha Active Member Full Member

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    not a chance pac gets in the ring with him, and not a chance canelo makes 152 again... that will be another fantasy victory for pacfans... if pac wanted he could go to gbp and fight canleo and floyd and make more money than he ever made his whole career with arum, but instead he is going to sign back with arum and take on the alvarados and rios... he simply doesnt want it...
     
  6. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    after the Bradley fight...0%
     
  7. Cinderella Man

    Cinderella Man Deleebr 'eem into mahands Full Member

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    If Pacquiao got wobbled a few times by Timmeh f*cking Bradley, he'd get his ass knocked out against El Ginger. He simply doesn't have the defense to avoid getting tagged, nor the chin to stand up to Gingerito's power punches.
     
  8. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I have Canelo beating Pacquiao if they were to fight. Just IMO.
     
  9. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Floyd fans are just as insecure as their idol ..Look at how desperate they are now..
     
  10. Boom_Boom

    Boom_Boom R.I.P Boxing 6/9/12 Full Member

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    And if Pac did win all these casual fans would just say Floyd softened him up so its not a great win and that Pac needs to fight Floyd ' s latest opponent to really prove himself.
     
  11. victor879

    victor879 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    *******s adding another hypothetical win for Pacquiao over Canelo. Not surprising. Personally, I think we should start 1,000 threads titled "Pacquiao is Ducking Canelo."
     
  12. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    despearte....uhh? I asked a question, thats all. what chance u give Pac, cant u at least answer that
     
  13. BlizzyBlizz

    BlizzyBlizz Loyal Member Full Member

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    Like this clown that wrote this...boxing fans of today just don't appreciate the sport of boxing anymore.
     
  14. Imperial1

    Imperial1 VIP Member Full Member

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    Very high but than again he doesn't have to fight him . He just beat Bradley who is a much better fighter :hey
     
  15. buckdacious

    buckdacious Sin~City punks!!! Full Member

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    Well your one of the very few that think Pac has a chance. He would be an underdog for sure agaist Canelo