what proof we have 70's 80's were better eras with better fighters?

Well there you go. That's not quite the OP's question because he specifically said 70's and 80's, but I don't disagree with your conclusion.

My point is that it's really not all that difficult to compare eras with so many fights, old and new, on youtube.

 

Have you seen like a Prime Mike Tyson knocked out bums who make look Jason Gavern Goku? He must have beaten both Klitschkos in round 1.

 

Just like the 210 pound , glass jawed nobody Haye was massacred yeah? Stupid idiot.

You can't see the difference cos you dksab.

Ali Bashir - the assistant of the man you whose ball sack you metaphorically rest your face upon has said there are no trainers out there.
If there are no great trainers how can there be great boxers?

Wlads entire boxing construct is just the base from with former great HWs would expand from.
His ceiling at 100% only amounts to 20% of what Larry Holmes had.

Larry's win against Mercer at over 40 and 3 generations past his best is up there with any of Wlads best wins.

Lower weight fighters like Ken Brunchun went through more work rate , punch out-put and movement in one round than most guys today put out out in 6.

Go back to your push biking thread dummy.

 

And the 90s era was also superior to todays in every division. All you have to do is watch those guys and today's. With some exceptions, guys like Crawford, walters, GGG, Pac, Floyd, alot of the other guys just stink. their technique is poor, they dont seem as fast or explosive, and just their overall boxing ability looks amateur at best.

 

70s 80s Present
LFLW Yoko Gushiken, Jung-Koo Chang, Donnie Nietes
FW Miguel Canto, Sot Chitalada, Roman Gonzalez
SFLW No weight class, Khaosai Galaxy, Naoya Inoue
BW Carlos Zarate, Miguel Lora, Shinsuke Yamanaka
SBW Wilfredo Gomez, Daniel Zaragoza, Guillermo Rigondeaux
FW Eder Jofre, Salvador Sanchez, Leo Santa Cruz
SFW Alexis Arguello, Julio Cesar Chavez, Takashi Uchiyama
LW Roberto Duran, Alexis Arguello, Jorge Linares
LWW Antonio Cervantes, Aaron Pryor, Danny Garcia
WW Jose Napoles, Ray Leonard, Floyd Mayweather
JMW Koichi Wajima, Tommy Hearns, Saul Alvarez
MW Carlos Monzon, Marvin Hagler, Gennady Golovkin
SMW Not a weight class, Thomas Hearns, Andre Ward
LHW Bob Foster, Michael Spinks, Sergey Kovalev
HW Muhammad Ali, Larry Holmes, Wladimir Klitschko

 

1970's and 80's were literally the golden age. Look at those fighters you listed, incredible. I really can't believe there are people saying it's better now. Before the 50's, sure, but 70's-80's?

Proof = ACTUAL EYE TEST. Go and watch them, the original poster clearly doesn't know about boxing history.

- Much better trainers, far more technical. We're seeing an uprising of European stars because of the technical edge over American boxers today..the trainers of 70's and 80's are certainly superior to the EE trainers today.

- Emphasis on in-fighting, good at point-scoring too.

- Amateurs overlapped with pros much better.

- Obvious PED usage and non-stringent methods of testing.

- Other sports less lucrative, boxing was the go-to sport for athletes. A higher number of boxers, too.

That's why it's full of ATG level fighters.

Boxing has REGRESSED since. Amateurs turned in to pitter-patter BS, less in-fighting, next day weigh-ins allowing fighters to come into the fight weaker and devoting most of their time cutting weight rather than DEVELOPING their game, mediocre trainers today etc.

From the new era, we don't have many ATG level fighters in terms of ability.

 

In the 70's we only had two sanctioning bodies, the WBA and the WBC. Now we have four major bodies (and a bunch of little ones) and this just dilutes the quality in every division. Four different sets of ratings, usually based on politics, and you just get a lot of unproven nobodies getting title shots. It's harder to figure out who the quality contenders are, because they don't need to fight each other; people rack up a streak against nobodies and get title shots. And that just dilutes the quality of everything, because it's hard to even determine who the top contenders really are.

 

Why would your compare, young SRL and Hearns fighitng in their prime weight classes, to mid to late 30's May and Pac fighting in their several weight classes higher than their ideal weight

 

Because MayPac was the biggest fight in boxing history and it sucked MAJOR BALLLLSSSS!!!!!!

The two best fighters OF THIS ERA and both were fighting like scared little bisnatches....

Great Era you say eh?? atschatschatschatschatsch

Please logoff, GTFO and watch Hagler-Hearns.

 

I beg to differ on the legendary fights.

Corrales-Castillo 1
Ward-Gatti 1-3
Barrera-Morales 1-3
Pacquiao-Marquez 1-3
Santa Cruz-Mares was good
Provodnikov-Bradley

There are many more, There have been some pretty damn good fights this era too

 

If you correct it like I did. Doesn't seem so far apart now does it

 

Come on CST, you are better than that. Louis fought superheavyweights in Primo Carnera, Buddy Baer, and Abe Simon. Plus, guys like James Braddock, Lou Nova, and Max Baer were all 6'3". Marciano may have a couple of question marks hanging over his head but Joe Louis could handle himself with bigger guys.

 

Try comparing the three periods in ten year groups:

Orlando Salido vs Terdsak Kokietgym (super featherweight) 2014
Monty Meza Clay vs Alan Herrera (lightweight) 2014
Marquez vs Pacquiao IV (welterweight) 2012
Brandon Rios vs Mike Alvarado(junior welterweight) 2012
Robert Guerrero vs Andre Berto (welterweight) 2012
Roman Gonzalez vs Juan Francisco Estrada (Light Flyweight) 2012
Pawel Wolak vs Delvin Rodriguez (junior middleweight) 2011
Ivan Calderon vs Giovani Segura I (straw weight) 2010
Paul Williams vs Sergio Martinez I (middleweight) 2009
Bernard Dunne vs Ricardo Cordoba (super bantamweight) 2009
Israel Vazquez vs Rafael Marquez III (super bantamweight) 2008
Israel Vazquez vs Rafael Marquez II (super bantamweight) 2007
Corrales vs Castillo I (lightweight) 2005
Erik Morales vs Manny Pacquiao I (super featherweight) 2005

Roberto Duran vs Iran Barkley (middleweight) 1989
Leonard vs Hagler (middleweight) 1987
Holyfield vs Qawi I (cruiserweight) 1986
Hagler Vs Hearns (middleweight) 1985
Myung-Woo Yuh vs Oh Kon Son (light flyweight) 1985
Tommy Cordova vs Freddie Roach (junior lightweight) 1984
Chang Jung Koo vs Katsuo Tokashiki (light flyweight) 1984
Bobby Chacon vs Boza Edwards II (super featherweight) 1983
Pryor vs Arguello 1 (light welterweight) 1982
Bobby Chacon vs Rafael Bazooka Limon IV (super featherweight) 1982
Leonard vs Hearns 1 (welterweight) 1981
Last two rounds of William "Caveman" Lee vs John LoCicero (middleweight) 1981
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Yaqui Lopez II (light heavyweight) 1980

Larry Holmes vs Mike Weaver (heavyweight) 1979
Danny Lopez vs Mike Ayala (featherweight) 1979
Matthew Saad Muhammad vs Marvin Johnson II (light heavyweight) 1979
Larry Holmes vs Ken Norton (heavyweight) 1978
Matthew Franklin vs Marvin Johnson I (light heavyweight) 1977
Carlos Zarate vs Alfonso Zamora (bantamweight) 1977
Foreman vs Lyle (heavyweight) 1976
Ali vs Frazier III (heavyweight) 1975
Ali vs Foreman (heavyweight) 1974
Ali vs Frazier I (heavyweight) 1971