What R****d would want a bigger ring against Bernard Hopkins

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    Even the American judge, the only one who scored it for Hopkins, gave the 8th round to Pascal.

    If he had given the 2nd round to Pascal, something that even most people who scored it for Hopkins did, the fight would've been a draw.

    I don't feel Canada's credibility was damaged at all. In fact, in any other foreign country, the hometown champion would've won that fight.

    If a Canadian fighter fought an American champion in the USA, and the American put on a performance like Pascal did against Hopkins, he would lose by a wide margin.

    Canada is pretty much the most neutral place anyone can fight.

    Our two controversies, the Bute vs Andrade and Pascal vs Hopkins fights, are both very legit. The ref for the Bute fight applied the rules by the book almost word for word. The judges for the PAscal-Hopkins fight scored a close one that could have gone either way as a draw.
     
  2. Dracon

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  3. Dracon

    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    :rofl You're a complete moron. Pascal won that fight by making Dawson chase him around the ring (something Chad had never done) and explode with flurries by using angles when Dawson was trying to protect himself. The big ring helped him in that fight.
     
  4. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Oh really how big was the ring in that fight genius ?
     
  5. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Dawson didn't chase him around the ring. Pascal leaps foward and attacks what the hell are you talking about. Pascal has below average boxing skills and was outboxed 75% of 24 rounds with Froch and Hopkins.
    Keep giving a brawler with poor conditioning a bigger ring to waste his energy running around and doing nothing that makes sense
     
  6. KillSomething

    KillSomething Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    You haven't ever tried this boxing stuff, I gather.

    So Pascal leaps forward and attacks...you know what that means? He was out of range to begin with, and had to close the distance to land his punches. Why was he out of range? Because he was circling. Why was he circling? To preserve his energy and get his opponent to come forward, which he isn't accustomed to. 'Running around doing nothing' is a lot less tiring than fighting.

    A brawler with poor conditioning? That doesn't even make sense when you're talking about world-level professional fighters. This isn't a subnovice amateur match. If you're going to be a brawler and win world titles, conditioning is probably gonna be one of your biggest attributes.

    Pascal is not a brawler. 'Brawlers' tend to throw more than 20 punches per round...Pascal is a mover.
     
  7. Scottrf

    Scottrf Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Hopkins is a more accomplished inside fighter. Pascal moves in and out and doesn't really fight for 3 minutes of every round. It's not 'wasting his energy running', it's conserving his energy running. You think backing off uses more energy than clinching or punching? Bigger ring makes sense to me. Pascal used the ring against Dawson, his movement controlled the fight.
     
  8. simon850

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    Hopkins won that fight
     
  9. Dracon

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    Dracon Frédéric Bastiat Full Member

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    :patsch Ok. In the Froch fight, he went toe-to-toe with the Brit and gassed out. Then watch the Dawson fight: MOST OF THE TIME, HE'S NOT THE ONE WHO ATTACKS.
     
  11. Exactabox

    Exactabox Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Ok so you are saying that Pascal does not have any conditioning problems is a great boxer and a big ring is to his benefit ?
     
  12. o_money

    o_money Boxing Junkie banned

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    Whatever ***ot. If you had any before it just shows your a fickle ***** that gives his and takes his "respect" away like a child. Good riddens:hi: Take your spilt milk somewhere else cause no one gives a **** what you think.:good
     
  13. o_money

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    Yup couldn't agree more. PAscal's foot speed is very good. Bernard's is too. Having a smaller ring would forced the fight more on pascal. Maybe that would have worked to his advantage, b/c once he stopped the full retreat he was actually having very good succes countering with his left and was starting to work his way back into the fight in the last couple of rounds....that being said the flip side of that is that if he truely was as gassed as he looked he might have gotten his ass beat and KOed b/c even though he was having more success B-hop was probably getting the better of most exchanges.
     
  14. o_money

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    Problem with a pascal hopkins fight is that styles wise it is the worse possible styles match up you can make. I mean Jean's game is prefect for hopkins...he likes to run around the ring dictating when he strikes. He's not a guy that can in-fight, pursue his opponent or counter over top of a jab. So basically he's in a position that they have to make everything pander to pascal's strengths and just hope that at this stage in the game they're enough to over come what hopkin's is bringing to the table. It's kinda damed if you do dammed if you don't type thing.
     
  15. o_money

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    Couldn't agree with you more. This "Canada is corrupt" **** is starting to get on my nerves. Canada, especially at the world championship level, is about as fair as it gets. Sorry but if you jackass got jobbed maybe you should tell him to stop kissing the canvas. Cause after that happens twice you only need to win 2 more rounds. Now can you honestly without getting your national pride involved really with a straight face suggest that with all the close rounds in the fight its rediculous that pascal didn't win two more...at least? If you wanna watch that fight and only score two or three rounds for pascal your the one with the biased rediculous score card.