What Really Happened in the Jack Johnson-Stanley Ketchel Fight?

IDK, why people believe the stuff they do, cos it's only a writer perspective, it's only what he thinks, anybody who believes this is proof of something is really using, The power of wishful thinking. Like the acting of Johnson, they want to believe their version of what happened, this writer stated his version, I would think there many who interpret the same facts differently without any proof, oh yes Johnson said it lol

 

The same, but some on here cant accept that and still wont see the shot and make up story about Johnson the great actor and planner that he went down and "acted like he was hurt on the canvas and according to the script he had in mind scored the knockout as soon as he got up not a moment later. It was obvious Johnson was carrying, Ketchel. Johnson could have ko'd Kechel at any time, something motivated Johnson to take Ketchel out at that time, wonder what it was? Oh thats right Johnson was spicing up the film lol. Johnson was proven liar, again tell us why Johnson took a dive with Willard after 26 rds, in an outside ring in the hot sun and that he shaded his eyes to prove it, it's all written down by his own words. Maybe Johnson was paid by the footage and he took both fights as far as he did so that he could get more, yep sounds about right.

 

Where do you possibly see the punch land on Johnson's chin? Johnson is already ducking and bending down when the punch goes over the back of his head.

First off the chin is in front of his face, it's obvious he wasnt hit on the chin, if anything he was hit high or in the jaw. If anything he was trying to avoid the shot and got clipped.


dempsey1234 said: ↑
Johnson was proven liar, again tell us why Johnson took a dive with Willard after 26 rds, in an outside ring in the hot sun and that he shaded his eyes to prove it, it's all written down by his own words.

Except your logic doesnt follow because Johnson didnt say that he took a dive against Ketchel. It was the opposite, so by your argument you can easily see how Johnson, the proven liar, could be trying to sell the pictures...

Where did I say johnson or Ketchel took a dive? Dont follow your logic how you arrive at that, that he could be trying to sell the picture. It was a one sided fight, Ketchel from the get-go had no chance. It was obvious that Johnson was carrying him, so you are saying that a light bulb went off in Johnson's head, and he decided that 12 rds in the vault was good enough and he decided not only go down but to improvise he was hurt on the canvas and then gets up in the next instance and flatten's Ketchel. So for 11rds Johnson was just going through the motions, and he decided to let Ketchel take a swipe at him so that he could fake a KD and then get up like he was crazy mad and takes Ketchel out in a dramatic finish so that he could sell the film. He could've wiped the floor with Ketchel at any point, instead he bored everybody for 11 rds and he didnt even hide the fact he was carrying Ketchel. That just doesnt make sense, who wants to see johnson constantly spearing a smaller man who everybody could see had no chance

dempsey1234 said: ↑
Maybe Johnson was paid by the footage and he took both fights as far as he did so that he could get more, yep sounds about right.

And then by this argument you are arguing with those who say that he carried Ketchel and that the KD wasnt legit but intended to sell the pictures. Its obvious from arguments being all over the place that even you agree it was fishy.

Please, see how you read into things that suit you. I never said anything about it being a legit fight from Johnson's POV. Anybody with eyes can see without a doubt that Johnson was carrying Ketchel and that he could've ended the fight at any time. He didnt have to wait for 12rds to finish the fight to add more footage for the fight to sell, it really is not that complicated.

 

I admit? It's there for all to see that unless you are denying what you see with your own eyes, that Johnson was not trying to KO ketchel, until. You of all people know there must've been some kind of agreement to let the fight go until Ketchel landed that punch which then angered Johnson enough to close the show. Putting the ball back in your court, your scenario, that Johnson faked the KD, and then acted like an enraged bull when he got up to flattened Ketchel as soon as he got up, cos he wanted to spice up the film makes no sense. The film proves that he was carrying Ketchel and that Johnson could've closed the show at any point. I am not arguing that the fight was a pier six brawl and that Johnson was marked, or had lumps, I am saying that the kd was legit, and that the KD pissed Johnson off period, all the rest I leave to you to explain.