What really happened when DLH fought B-Hop??

Got caught in the body and was KO'd, nothing new.

 

Big Reg if Hoya wasn't slamming his fist to the ground then I would have thought it was legit. Also Hoya was winning that fight in my view. But I could care less it was Hop second biggest win and it was against a guy who started at 130 and the other at 147. So I do know what the hell I'm talking about? But anyways what u think of the Celtics vs Lakers

 

Hoya started pounding his fists after he got counted out. So I fail to see how this supports your theory. Hoya was not winning that fight. The thing you have to realize is, if you're going to come up with a conspiricy theory, there has to be a reason for the conspiricy. For what reason would Hoya throw that fight?

Why are you asking me about the Lakers vs. the Celtics? That series is over. BTW, I picked the Celtics in that series. I never had much faith in the Lakers as I felt they were basically a one man team.

Oh yeah, Hoya started out at 135, not 130(he dropped down to 130 for 1 fight). And Marvin Hagler's two biggest wins were against a guy who started out at 135 and another guy who started out at 147.

 

:huh

He was winning on ONE CARD!!! And the other two cards had Hopkins up comfortably. Hopkins was winning by a good margin...that judge was insane.

 

The reason why I broght up the C's was because we talk about it in the LOUNGE BEFORE THE SERIES STARTED. bUT i GOT SUSPENDED FOR A WEEK. Also I just don't like Hop to tell the truth. I respect his accopmlishments, but not a fan.

I'M GOING TO YOUTUBE IT AND SEE WHEN HE WAS PUNCHING THE GROUND

 

Reg u are right about him hitting the ground after the count was over, but something just didn't seem right when watching it. I still think the fight was fixed, but I don't want to argue about it

 

when a fights a fix it is usually to get the guy with the money and connection and better prospects to win

De La Hoya is the Golden Boy who is the biggest earner in the sport so it would be Hopkins bribed to lose if it was to be any fighter.

De La Hoya just mentally and physically caved in because he met his match in Hopkins

Hopkins made a big name of himself beating up Trinidad and De La Hoya who were truely welterweights come up in weight.

De La Hoya dosent belong in the middleweght division and Trinidad is pushing his limits too..

Hopkins was just bigger and badder and the little guys folded

Mayweather was the one saying De La Hoya took a dive and said he quit to rubbish him and wage psyloigcal warfare before their fight - but it was a good shot and it hurts much more if you know in your head if you get back up Hopkins is just gonna dish out more

 

Those are Hagler's most high profile wins, but I'd pick a number of fights as being more impressive for Hagler than his win over Duran.

Likewise for Hopkins. Trinidad and Tarver are his best wins. The DLH one was the biggest for popularity and name recognition but not for quality.

 

He didn't throw it, he blew it.

 

I somewhat agree but you also never know in sports.Things like this do happen! We the fans are sometimes in denial and in this case some fans hate Oscar so much (for some crazy reason) that they get a hard on whenever he falls.

 

It was a bodyshot from a bigger man to a smaller man......

 

The big difference is that Morales and Trinidad lost with honor......

.....Trinidad knowing he was losing, and because he was losing, pushing his limits and risking getting KO'd by further exposing himself by going for broke.

Morales after struggling in losing to Raheem, getting wornout and stopped by Pacquiao in his second fight with him, then felt a sense of getting outsped, and overpowered while being knockdown a couple of times.
Morales could have gotten up after the last knockdown by Pacquiao, but his face told the whole story as he sat there getting counted out, "this guy is too fast and too strong for me.".......and Morales honorably admited as such afterward.


With Hopkins-DLH, Hopkins had just begun to impose his will on DLH, but DLH did'nt want to taste what was to come with Hopkins fully dominating him......
.....I thought it was cheap and distasteful to anyone with any boxing sense that DLH insulted our intelligence by saying afterward something to the effect, "damn, I was that close, I almost had him but he caught me with a good body shot. Damn I was that close!"


Imo what DLH did was dishonorable, as he basically quit, by not giving Hopkins a chance to shine by fully imposing his will on him.
Hopkins was on his way, but DLH shamefully did'nt give him the satisfaction.
The shameful part is that DLH did'nt even put up a stand to try and stop it!
In essense DLH told everyone that ever bought one of his PPV's, "**** you all, I'm not risking being at the recieving end of a beatdown for your entertainment!":-(

Sad is'nt it? That the man that has sold more PPV's than anybody.....the Trinidad debacle and the Hopkins cave-in is the fight in him that he gives the fans!:-(

 

I really do think this whole fight was a fix.

Forget about everything and just watch the fight. Whoever said it was a decent fight is full of ****. It was an EVEN(-ish) fight before the stoppage, but it was far from decent.

The whole length of the fight very few hard, crisp shots landed. Many of hoyas combinations were flurries that look good, but do sweet fark all, the whole time the comentators are like...."they are just warming up", "I think hes going to open up more this round" etc. but it never gets intense.

Sure some shots land, but someone show me the hightlights of a fight between two great boxers where the action was so weak and unsustained. It was sparring I tell you, the occasional shot here and there but nothing that looked dangerous and with serious intent.

Another thing about this liver shot business, yeah they hurt and can knock people out, but when have you ever seen such a weak looking shot KO someone??? Give me an example of it being that weak. He practically tapped him.

What also gets me is when Oscar talks to Bhop after he looks all serious and grim, but then lets out this huge, gunuine looking smile, before going straight back into a depressed loser face (scraping the bottom of the barrel there, but it happens none-the-less).

 

Hmm ... Bernard did ask DLH what punch it was after the fight though which was a bit strange.

DLH actually had to tell him 'You got me right here' and pointed to his liver.

There may have been a wink, I'm not sure.

Anyway, the important thing is they went back to the dressing rooms and signed the GB contract together after that. Everyone wins.

 

A sparring exhibition was what you saw. No more and no less. I tap you then you tap me. It was a pathetic attempt to make it look like a real fight.
That punch Oscar went down on was a damn tap, nothing more. The partnership in GBP was set-up before the fight and Hopkins had to have been told not to mark up Oscars face and Oscar would go down from a body shot.
Not only was that a weak body shot it glanced off Oscars elbow. Go slo-mo then get back to me. A tap. That's all it was.
Oscar has always wanted to be a movie star but that performance after he went down certainly showed that acting is not his forte'.
It was rumored that Aaron Spelling, the famous Movie and TV producer, was in the audience and after watching Oscars "acting" performance after the knockdown started to laugh and couldn't stop laughing. He had to almost be carried out he was laughing so hard.