Pimp C, When the Maidana fight was signed, you didn’t think that he had a chance. You didn’t think that he’d even land anything of note on him. I’ve read some of your old posts. Regarding GGG, he is an elite level MW. Floyd was more skilled and quicker than EVERY MW we’ve seen in years. However, that doesn’t mean that he’d have been able to have beaten them. You are under the notion that Floyd would have boxed circles around GGG. But the problem with this, is that it isn’t in any way realistic. Floyd has never fought a MW. He’s never fought anyone remotely as powerful. There’s also a lot of BS that Floyd pulled throughout his career, in order to keep that zero. So he was nowhere near as confident as what you are. And if he’d have wanted that fight, he would have taken it. You talk about him shutting down GGG, yet where was this offensive arsenal going to come from, when he’d have been stalked by a power punching MW? He would have been hit in that fight. He couldn’t have evaded GGG all night. At some point, GGG would have had him in a corner or on the ropes, where he’d have landed something. Maidana did it. Oscar did it. Cotto did it. GGG would have hit his arms, his shoulders and whatever else he could have hit. And that power would have made Floyd very cautious and hesitant. He’d simply never have felt anything like it before. Nothing can compare. He would have been backed up. And whilst ever he was been backed up, his own offense would have been minimised. He didn’t go life and death with Canelo in all of those fights. You know that he was robbed in that first fight. And don’t even go there with Canelo anyway. 1. Floyd didn’t fight the versions of Canelo that GGG fought. 2. Floyd easily beating Canelo, and Canelo having beaten GGG, has absolutely nothing to do with a Floyd vs GGG fight. You know damn well that’s not how boxing works. Cotto gave Floyd a better fight than Canelo did. You saw what happened with Duran, Hearns and Barkley. You say that Floyd couldn’t beat 168 guys because he’d have been dwarfed by them. Yet Canelo is as tall, with a lesser reach. Apart from the weight, he’s no bigger. Yet on other threads, you’ve said that Floyd would still easily have beaten a current day Canelo. I like you as a poster, but at the end of the day, you’re completely biased when it comes to Floyd. And you debate on emotion. You debate on having an extreme dislike for many of GGG’s hardcore element who have overhyped him over the years. I post objectively. Floyd was better than GGG and obviously ranks much higher. But if you think that a faded and old (your words) version of Floyd wouldn’t even have been troubled by an elite level, power punching MW, then you are simply delusional. Floyd had 50 fights, but only ever 3 of them above WW, with ZERO at MW. You need to think about that for a moment.
You really do live in a fantasy world when it comes to Floyd. If Floyd was even half on confident as you, it would have happened. There’s a reason why it didn’t.
Nobody has said that GGG was more special than Floyd. Try debating on styles rather than emotion. Unless he’d have been compromised by the weight, GGG would have been favoured, as his power and his aggressiveness would have put Floyd into a defensive position, which would have minimised his own offense. It’s just that simple. No need for all of these long posts. The power would have made Floyd extremely cautious. He would have been backed up by power punches. An old, faded 5’8 WW with ZERO power would not have had an easy fight against a power punching MW who’d have backed him up aggressively. It’s not who was the better overall fighter, it’s how they’d have matched up on the night stylistically. The fact that you don’t even think that Floyd would have been at all troubled, tells us that you aren’t debating objectively or logically.
I think you’ll find that that GGG was looking for an undisputed fight with Canelo, whereas Ward had been inactive, and where he’d said that he didn’t know if he could still make SMW.
We’ve discussed this many times. Be objective for once. The fight wasn’t viable from both sides, due to a number of reasons.
Yeah, Floyd HAD to fight Berto. Right? Berto was chosen because he was a SAFE fight. Pimp, if Floyd was even half as confident as you, he would never have behaved in the manner that he did. GGG would have been easy work? Coming from a guy who was terrified of fighting a prime Manny, due to what Roger had been feeding his head with. Hilarious.