What round would GGG have stopped Floyd in?

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Floyd wins. 12 round unanimous.

 

Floyd doesn't have to deter him to win a points decision. This isn't street fighting.

 

Floyd's workrate is not higher than Golovkin's either.

 

Good analogy.

 

Getting clean countered would absolutely not have been a deterrent to GGG.

That’s what I’m trying to explain to you.

GGG took clean rapid fire combinations off of Kell Brook. Yet he just walked him down.

Canelo stood off of Floyd, where he let Floyd dictate the pace. But an elite level, power punching MW would not have done that.

Floyd was a 5’8 former SFW-WW. GGG has an iron chin. Nothing Floyd did would have deterred GGG from backing him up. Nothing.

Yes, Floyd could have survived to the end. But surviving and winning the fight are two completely different things.

 

Like yourself, I also saw that GGG was hyped to death by a group of members here.

We all saw the threads.

That he’d have knocked out Roy and Toney etc, with consummate ease.

That’s what happens. It also happened with Loma and Kovalev.

There’s many guys who have been overhyped.

However, there’s also guys that go the opposite way and underrate guys.


For me, GGG was a very good fighter, who was robbed in the first Canelo fight, and who was ducked by several guys, which would have strengthened his resume.


Regarding Floyd, in terms of a P4P basis, Floyd is levels above him. But this is a H2H fight that we’re talking about here.

Floyd sat in the comfort of his own home, saying things like “GGG would be easy work”

But we both know that Floyd had no intentions of ever facing him. There is a reason why he retired with safe but lucrative fights against Berto and McGregor.


Now I have read what you’ve written above, and I respect it. But H2H, this would have been a horrible match up for Floyd. Unless GGG would have been compromised by the weight loss, Floyd would have been fighting a healthy, elite level, power punching MW.

Yes, of course Floyd was more skilled and faster than the MW’s who GGG fought, such as Jacobs and Lemieux etc. But that is simply not relevant here.

It doesn’t matter how great Floyd was. Floyd was not beating a power punching, elite level, pressure fighting MW.

We saw Canelo stand off of Floyd and let Floyd dictate the pace. But GGG would not have done that. He would not have played chess with an elusive chess master. He would have stalked him and walked him down like he did with Brook. He’d have put Floyd into a defensive position as soon as the first bell had rung. Floyd had zero power. GGG is a MW with an iron chin. Kell Brook’s combinations bounced off of him, and he just walked him down.

He’d have pushed Floyd back with aggression like Maidana did, which would have limited Floyd’s time and space. Nothing Floyd would have done would have deterred him or stopped him from pushing Floyd onto the back foot. Floyd would have been in survival mode. GGG would have hit him with power punches. At some point, he’d have backed Floyd into the corners or into the ropes like Maidana and Oscar did. And GGG would have hit his arms and his shoulders, and whatever else he could hit. Floyd would have been on his bike. He’d have retreated all night, which would have negated his own offense.

Floyd had nothing to discourage GGG and make him hesitant. And despite what Shane said, GGG could absolutely have walked through Floyd’s shots. Again, he walked through Brook’s without any issue. And there’s no way that Floyd would have been as aggressive and as offensive as what Brook was.


This is similar to the Floyd-Barkley thread that we did a few months ago. Again, it’s not about who the better fighter is. It’s styles. How they’d have matched up on the night stylistically.

Yes, Floyd was a genius.

Yes, GGG was overhyped by many.

But a 5’8 WW with zero power, would not have starved off an elite level MW.

 

GGG didn't have to walk Brook down. Kell countered, then stayed in range and traded. He fought an unintelligent fight in which he was begging to be KO'd. If he'd applied any sort if defensive principle, he could've lasted longer and banked more rounds.

Canelo staying off of Floyd is a myth. He walked Floyd down and got his punches off. He was aggressive. He just couldn't keep Floyd at bay because he had lead feet in comparison to Floyd. The only times he stayed back was to try lure Floyd in for a counter.

GGG is a lead footed guy with a 70 inch reach. Kell had a 69 inch reach, and he was no Floyd to begin with. He was going to be there to get hit.

Floyd wouldn't. And a move down to 154 might sap just enough out of GGG to render him almost ineffective in the second half of the fight.

Floyd wasn't confident enough to make this fight, but this wasn't unwinnable for him. GGG didn't beat anyone to make him an overwhelming favorite here.

 

There’s no logic in believing that Floyd would have pot shotted a power punching MW walking him down aggressively,

He wouldn’t have had the time or the space to have pot shotted him.

This wouldn’t have been a chess match in the centre of the ring.

GGG would have fought him aggressively pushing him backwards and into a defensive position.

He’d have put Floyd into survival mode.


Frustrated him, how?

He’d have a limited offense.

He had absolutely nothing to have deterred him from walking him down. Nothing.

Look at the Maidana fight.

Look at GGG’s fight with Brook.


Floyd would have been stalked.

 

Again, surviving and winning the fight are two completely different things.

 

I don’t think so.

I don’t see him having much of an offense, as he’d have been backed up all night.

 

1st of course.

 

Terrible logic.

 

A 5’8 WW who had a cautious style and no power, was beating an elite level, power punching MW?

 

That doesn’t make sense.