What round would GGG have stopped Floyd in?

GGG wasnt even in the US until 28 years of age. Haney obviously achieved more than GGG at this age. Youre moving goalposts though as your original post said Haney has already done more than GGG in his career..and youve backpedaled from that.

GGG is an ATG and Haney has a ways to go before joining those ranks...for starters, win your championship fights like vs Prograis and not like vs Loma where you look like the product of corrupt promotional company imvestment. Secondly, dont huge for rounds on end because youre hurt...fight through it like the bad mf you claim to be.

 

Absolute nonsense.

Like Lance has said, you can’t have it both ways.

You’ve just said that Floyd was old and faded.

Well an old and faded Floyd with zero power wouldn’t have boxed circles around a world class, power punching MW.

He was just massaging his ego in public.

If there was any truth to what he’d said, then he’d have shown us.

He wouldn’t even let Canelo weigh 154, yet that same guy was going to fight GGG at 154 and make him look a fool? No.

You don’t need reminding that every fighter has a ceiling, and every fighter has a stylistic nemesis.

If you want to say that Floyd was on another level and that his career was on another level, I’m not going to argue with you. But a faded Floyd with zero power, was not beating any elite level, power punching, pressure fighter who fought at MW. There’s 17 weight divisions for a reason.

Floyd was a genius, and that can’t be argued. But he had nothing for a MW like GGG. He was never going to win a H2H fight against him. Not if GGG wasn’t compromised. If he’d have been healthy, he’d have just backed Floyd up and completely nullified his offence. He wouldn’t have stood off of him like Canelo did. He’d have fought him aggressively and backed him up.

I don’t believe that you really believe that he’d have beaten him easily.

To me, it’s just nonsense. It would have been a horrible stylistic match up for Floyd, and definitely the versions towards the end of his career.

 

We’ve discussed the Ward situation lots of times.

I was a fan of both guys, but more of a fan of Andre’s. And like I’ve told you before, that fight wasn’t viable.

Go and look at the timelines.

GGG was in line to fight David Lemieux, with his sole focus on fighting Canelo afterwards in a huge undisputed fight. That was his goal.

From Andre’s perspective, he’d recently been inactive due to injuries and contractual issues, he’d have needed at least one tune up, and he’d said that he wasn’t sure if he could comfortably make 168 again.

So the timing was completely off for both guys. It was just never going to happen at that point.

 

If pbf would've fought ggg at 154 and clowned him these same people claiming ggg destroys pbf at 154 would be the same ones with excuses saying that ggg was drained and not give him an ounce of credit for it. We've already seen this with canelo. Canelo was green canelo was drained. No matter what pbf does or who he beats it will never be enough. Pbf can't win with haters ggg would be just another so called cherrypick and pbf only fought him because ggg was just a slow come forward boxer who never beat anyone of note he must beat this guy in order to prove his greatness. I mean where does it end? Like I said before the man was 38 and faded fought at 5 weights and beat over 20 world champs what more does he need to do?

 

Haney at 25 has already been undisputed at 135 now in his very first fight at a new weight schooled one of the long time top fighters at this new weight in prograis and has a belt there. He's damn near hof level already, he will continue to do great things in the sport. Ggg was never going to jump up to a new weight with no tune up and take on a top fighter of a division like Haney did, he doesn't have it in him and is a diva.

 

I agree that there’ll always be fans who’ll never be satisfied.

Floyd could have beaten a prime Mike Tyson and it wouldn’t have been enough for many on here.

No, he didn’t need to fight GGG.

But he didn’t have to run off his mouth either.

You can’t say that GGG would be easy work, before signing a contract to fight Andre Berto.

It’s laughable.

I certainly didn’t expect him to fight GGG. And he doesn’t deserve criticism for not pursuing him as a late 30’s WW. But again, he shouldn’t have run his mouth.

Let me ask you this for real:

How aggressive and offensive minded would Floyd have been against Golovkin?

The old and faded version that we’re talking about.

Golovkin would have backed him up and completely nullified his offence.

Floyd had absolutely nothing that would have deterred him from backing him up aggressively.

 

You do realize Kambosos Jr did most of the work for Haney's Undisputed title at 135? Is that the same feat as one guy fighting all the others and unifying himself in your opinion?

 

From the opinions that I’ve read over the years regarding this fight, most people think that Floyd could have survived. And I can actually envisage that. He was a genius after all. But like I’ve said to others, there’s a huge difference between surviving and winning a fight.

So I think that Floyd could have not gotten knocked out. But he wouldn’t have won the fight, as he’d have been on the defensive all night, which would have nullified his own offence.

He’d have lost a decision through not engaging as he’d have been too cautious.

 

Yeah but that's not Haney's problem now is it? I could say teo did most of kambosos work you could do this all day. With that said Haney went to Australia and beat Kambosos clearly 2x and became undisputed.

 

What work did Kambosos do? He won exactly one fight, same as Haney did. LOL.

 

I mean you call GGG a diva and do nothing but praise Haney? Your bias is see-through. Haney couldve and probably shouldve lost to Loma and he refused the rematch. Haney shouldve lost and been stopped by Linares but you just look the other way.

I like Haney; he's a good fighter. He's just not as good as some of his fans think (i.e., you). Hopefully he has the career you think he will.

 

Any version of Floyd loses to any version of GGG at 154. Any version.

With the amount that DLH touched Floyd...GGG wouldve sparked Floyd. And that's not diss to Floyd...although Floyd fans take it as exactly that. Floyd started at 130? Ofc he cant beat a career MW fighter...its common sense.

Well, maybe not common.

 

You say I'm biased then you say he should've lost or been stopped by Linares a fight he swept until like the 10th round but I'm biased??? Lmfao!
The loma fight was close could've gone either way or a draw and Haney got the win it was no robbery. A close fight isn't a robbery because the fighter you like more didn't get the decision. Haney moved up because he was having trouble making weight not because he was scared of loma he fought the man already ffs. Haney looks like the kind of fighter who wants all the smoke he's willing to take risks take less money seeks out good fights and big names. I call ggg a diva because that's what he was he was difficult to negotiate with and thought he was the face of boxing when he wasn't. He was more than happy to take step aside money fight bums to pad his record and keep his ko streak alive. Haney at 25 is on his way to having a better career than ggg ever had.