What should Fury do about Wilder?

I’d love to see dentay catch a few more dents in his ugly spastic head

 

If Wilder wanted a rematch his team should have read the contract. Simple.

Let me guess- when this is pointed out to Wilder there will be another excuse "my dog ate the contact".

 

Man, can you imagine the results of his second autopsy if a third fight happened!!

 

Honestly, do none of you read?

The rematch was set for Dec. 19. The location was set. The money guarantees were set. The networks televising were set.

Then the broacasters showing the fight in the U.S. asked to move the fight to a new date, because too many competing sports were rescheduled for that day in the U.S. and they wanted to make as much on the PPV as they could.

So both teams looked for alternate dates. Tyson Fury's team offered him dates against Wilder in January and February that the networks agreed to.

But Fury said no. Fury said he wanted to fight in December. And they couldn't find a date all the parties and the networks televising could agree to, so Fury said he's fighting in December regardless, and picked a nobody (Kabayel). And Fury's team is trying to keep him happy, because they don't want him going off the rails again, so they went that direction.

Now, Wilder's team is trying to get the deal (that was already agreed to) enforced.

That's all that's going on. Typical boxing business. I can see both sides. I can see why Fury doesn't want to wait. I can see why Wilder wants the deal enforced.

This kind of thing happens. When Lewis lost to Rahman, there was a rematch clause but it wasn't an "immediate" rematch (I think it had to occur by a certain date). Rahman had an offer to fight Tyson right away, but then something happened with Tyson. Then Rahman was supposed to have a tuneup with David Izon right away, before he fought Tyson. (They were trying to squeeze two fights in before the Lewis deadline.) And Lewis went to court and got a judge to agree to allow him the rematch first before anyone else, I think his argument was (seriously) that he was getting too old and only had one or two fights left. (Not like Tyson was getting any younger.) But the judge said Lewis gets the first shot.

They are going to argue all fights were called off because of Covid, so it couldn't be staged when it was supposed to in the summer. They had alternate date in December, but the network wanted it moved. They offered alternate dates to Fury in January and Februay, but he turned them down.

It will get sorted out and we'll move on. Everything else is just noise.

Best case scenario:
* Joshua beats his mandatory Pulev
* Fury and Wilder III takes place February or March
* Joshua fights his mandatory Usyk (in April)
* The winners fight in September for all the belts

Sort of like a heavyweight version of the World Boxing Super Series.

And we leave nonsense matchups with guys like Agit Kabayel out.

 

Yep. Fury has nothing to prove there, and would only beat Wilder up worse if it did happen.

 

Jay deas

No towels
No gameplan
And will take no responsibility when he gets beaten to a pulp

 

I'm kind of surprised how people act like this never happened before when an undefeated fighter lost.

When George Foreman got knocked out by Muhammad Ali, George:

* Accused his long-time trainer (Dick Sadler) of drugging his water and fired him (George said he spit it out because it tasted like medicine)
* Accused the referee of taking bribes.
* Accused the ref of a quick count and said he wasn't down for 10 seconds.
* Accused the government in Zaire of holding him hostage and revoking his passport so he couldn't leave when he got cut before the fight.
* Fired co-trainers and advisors Archie Moore and Sandy Saddler (and they were a helluva lot bigger names than Mark Breland)
* Accused the officials of tampering with the ring and loosening the ropes so he couldn't hit Ali when Ali covered up on the ropes.

And people thought he legitimately lost his mind.

George didn't fight for more than year, except for an exhibition where he wanted to prove he was still tough by fighting five guys in one day, which was a circus.

When he came back to the ring in 1976, he was nearly knocked out again in his first fight by Lyle.

And George refused to accept Ali legitimately beat him until the 1980s (they fought in 74).

Wilder lost nine months ago. It might take 10 years to accept it, like it did George, but I doubt it will take that long.

And, once George did accept it, people started admitted to a lot of things.
* Dundee said he loosened the ropes.
* Zack Clayton (the ref) admitted he took money from Dundee (Dundee said he was paying the ref to "protect" Ali in case he got hurt - eye roll.)
* Films showed Foreman wasn't down for 10 seconds the ref stopped counting before 10 with George on his feet.
* His passport was revoked by the government so he wouldn't leave when he was cut.
* And the trainer he accused of drugging him immediately went to work for Ali after the fight. (And George still believes he was drugged.)

So, who knows, maybe if Wilder accepts the loss, we'll find out years from now Fury and his band of gypsies did cheat? Ali's team did, after all. And it's not like Team Fury never got caught cheating before this.

And maybe when Wilder comes back he'll get into a Foreman-Lyle type war, and make headlines again. And maybe that knock-down, drag out brawl will be against Fury. (They both have knocked each other down twice already, after all).

It's all part of boxing. We're watching history in the making. Enjoy it.

All of you who are "shocked" should pull your panties out of your cracks and don't worry. It all gets sorted out in the end.

 

Imho fury in the last fight earnt his right to do whatever he wants to.

 

He literally hired the Guy who took a dive in his fight with Wilder... Scuba Scott nothing like another yes-man in your corner.

 

Have you seen the contract no... everyone who has claimed to see it says it expired in October and Fury agreed to wait until December at Wilder's request, it is not Fury's fault Wilder's team cannot manage to get their **** together for a fight in December, Wilder admitted he was not even in training for the third fight back in October.. Why should Fury have to hold up his career for 6 months longer then originally agreed to because Wilder side can't meet their commitments.

 

Meet their commitments? Both sides happily signed to fight on Dec. 19. A lot of parties were involved and everyone was on board.

The problem was the television network asked for a change of date, that started all this. Fox asked them to move the date that didn't compete with all the sports that were rescheduled on Dec. 19. Both sides worked to get new dates in January and February, but Fury didn't want to wait that long.

That's basically it. I said I can understand both sides.

If it is ruled in favor of Fury and he ends up fighting in December against Kabayel, then that's the way it goes. If they are told to wait and fight Wilder in January, then that's the way it goes.

But, like I said yesterday, I'd prefer to watch the top two or three fighters in any division fight each other rather than #1 vs. #37.

I could wait a month for Wilder-Fury III, if the alternative is Fury-Kabayal, and then Joshua vacates and doesn't fight Usyk.

I'd rather see Fury-Wilder III, Joshua-Usyk and then the winners meet in September for EVERYTHING. After all, that's what the plan was BEFORE Fox asked them to move the date. Then there are no loose ends. No vacant belts.

 

He should continue to do what he's doing. Let them rant and rave. If they have a leg to stand on let them make their move then deal with it then. At some point Wilder will take things too far, p!ss one too many people off, and then's the time to swoop in and take him to the cleaners, before all the vultures that hang around him pick him clean.

 

Anyone who wants to see fury fight kabayel instead of Wilder needs to explain themselves. The way I see it it's not a matter of Joshua or Wilder it's Wilder or whatever bum fury decides to line up

 

You are wrong, AJ still has unfinished business with Ruiz they are still 1-1 , and Wilder vs Fury needs to happen, than winners fight each other that's how boxing should be.

 

Ignore him and wait for him to get beat again by someone else. I doubt they’ll fight again now as don’t think Fury will stick around very long and Joshua is a minimum two and possibly three fight series. Which in todays boxing and all the circus around them negotiation and hype wise is another 18 months. I mentioned Usuk as another possibility on a different thread but doubt he’ll get even round to that never mind another Wilder fight