What should Jim Mc have done during the DeGale v Groves fight?

Should of gone pub and let Dean Powell take over

 

Your brain is too clever, trust me. I think he's underestimated, he's definitely undermining your self-belief and your confidence. Jahm-sain?

 

He needed to initiate the exchanges and place his shots properly. He was too used to guys walking in on him and having all the advantages in terms of strength, speed and skill.

What Booth advocated wasn't difficult to disarm, DeGale just didn't have the footwork to get into the right range to do anything.

So really - go forward with the jab and don't waste time flurrying against Groves' arms, look for the body and bring in the uppercut.

 

I think the real problem was what he was telling him in preparation for the fight, not during.

 

He needed Obi-Wan in the corner

 

I would have told him to do the exact opposite. Groves was fighting a negative fight. Watch the 6th round... Degale won it easily, it was his easiest round. Why? Because he didn't come forward in the round. There were no punches thrown at all for 55 seconds. Degale won the round by picking Groves off with jabs and then moving. It was really a very easy round for him. I would have told him to sit back and use the jab off the backfoot. **** the crowd, they were already booing anyway so who gives a **** if they continue to boo.

Degale would have won the fight with ease if he had changed to a more negative fighting style imo.

 

It was largely his being negative that lost him the earlier rounds. I see what you're saying, but knowing that Groves likes space to work it was a bizarre decision to allow him to dictate the pace.

 

I thought he was coming forward in the early rounds (tentatively) and trying to put the pressure on without getting into exchanges but Groves wasn't allowing him to get inside and was moving away. When James was getting within range Groves would throw shots (a lot of them didn't land but some did) and move. Degale was prepared to allow those shots to come (block and slip) in order to get inside and get his off but Groves was moving away too quickly.

All of the talk before the fight backfired very badly because Degale had to make the fight to back up all of his talk.

I think that Degale had the tools to win but it would have had to have been really really really negative boring tactics.

 

i dont think he could have done anything if im honest, not trying to knock Jim here but he simply isnt the right trainer to push Degale onto the next level.

 

De Gale doesn't seem capable of punching on the way in. He can only walk in or stalk you off the front foot. If you watch the first round he actually did well when he used the jab, but when Groves started using more movement he started to offset that jab. That was De Gale's cue to concentrate on cutting the ring down more efficiently so he could maintain using the jab.

The main reason Wladimir was able to beat Haye is because he's a master at cutting the ring down. You see Haye's idea was to use lateral movement to create angles for him to shoot in whilst Wlad was in transition to catching up with cause Haye had just made him reset with movement, but he couldn't create those angles cause he couldn't offset Wladimir. He couldn't offset Wladimir cause Wladimir is so good at cutting the ring down, and because Haye has no jab to close the distance, he got marooned at out long range just trying to exist on the outside looking for one big swing.


De Gale should of cut the ring off more efficiently. He needed to cut the ring down gradually and start stepping across instead of following Groves or trying to walk in, then he would in theory of been able to maintain his jab. Best examples of putting pressure on behind the jab.....Cotto-Yuri Foreman.

Examples of cutting the ring down effectively........Hopkins against Pascal, Wladimir -Haye.

 

I thought DeGale won that fight but since he lost the decision everyone thinks he's crap and Groves is the ****. They're still at the same level IMO but Groves looks to have more potential to improve.

 

I thought Degale edged it too.

 

He had no plan A.