Harry Wills has been the subject of a lot of contovesy on this forum recently, but I get the idea that a lot of people don't have a very clear idea of his style as a fighter. So how would you describe him? I have my own ideas, but I would like to let other people put theirs across first.
I think he was a pretty smart fighter, he talked about how he played possum against Fulton to encourage Fulton to come forward and give countering opportunities. He then took Fulton apart as we know. Fulton complained about 'holding and hitting', so he probably had a good inside game and used his strength to bully opponents and he certainly showed to be a good bodypuncher breaking Fulton's ribs. Given the KO's over numerous top opponents we have to rate him as a puncher Awaits the ill informed Willard and Firpo comparisons
I based my earlier points partly on the following interview: http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...pg=5119,7412532&dq=harry+wills+jeanette&hl=en He ko'd Kid Norfolk cold with a single short right uppercut, so that speaks of his in-fighting abilities. Norfolk was said to be quick and Wills used height/reach to offset quicker fighters http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...&pg=1659,899441&dq=harry+wills+langford&hl=en Wills-Langford 1916 write up below: 'clever boxing skill', 'constantly kept his left jab in Langford's face'. When Langford made his way past the jab he was seemingly smashed with a hard right counter http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F10B16FC395512738FDDA10894DB405B868DF1D3 Here's a write up of a Wills-Langford 1916 bout, not much talk of styles but clearly very dominant http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F40E12FD34541B7A93C1A91788D85F468285F9 Wills knocks out Tut Jackson with bodyshots, the below describes a brutal body attack http://query.nytimes.com/mem/archive-free/pdf?res=F40713FC3B5D1A7A93C2AA1783D85F468285F9 This looks interesting, Benny Leonard discussing Wills, but it isn't free http://pqasb.pqarchiver.com/boston/...sc=BENNY+LEONARD+DISCUSSES+WILLS&pqatl=google Dempsey describes Wills as a scientific but also a mauler http://news.google.com/newspapers?i...AJ&pg=6884,4209014&dq=harry+wills+firpo&hl=en
This is a prety good summary. I think that he is underestimated as a puncher. In one of their early fights Sam Langford kicked the stool aside between rounds, because he thought that if he sat down he would never get up. "Even iron will break eventualy, and my jaw isn't made of iron. It wouldn't do to take too many of those" I also think that he was prety durable, given that only Sam Langford realy stopped him. Sam Langford
Yes the reports do point to Langford being ready to go at times, Langford must have been pretty gutsy to stay in there or perhaps Wills wasn't the greatest finisher but the power certainly is there Allot of names he blew out that are not noted on his record seem to have pulled big crowds and were big fights at the time, thought you might enjoy this story http://www.eastsideboxing.com/forum/showthread.php?t=421216
Wills doesn’t seem to have had any obvious weaknesses, apart from the fact that his style was not very aesthetically pleasing. Can anybody suggest anything?
From those descriptions there he seems somewhat akin to a riddick bowe of his day in that he had the size and jab to keep people outside with their jab but the speed and power to beat them when they got inside.
It did sound like Fulton may have had a better jab on the outside but that's speculating Obviously being knocked out by Langford shows some weakness, while durable not the greatest chin and maybe could be suckered in or got complacent given he stated he didn't know what hit him. Speculative again Indeed, although maybe more of a focused body attack by the sounds of it, I wonder how many bodyshot KO's he has, we have 2 recorded but I'd expect there to be more as we don't have reports of all his fights The more I read about the Wills the more impressive a fighter he appears to be
I think everyone has to agree that the more you read about wills, the more you even up the chances had he ever got the shot at dempsey. Does anyone have any insight as to his physical strength? I wouldn't read to much into the langford ko losses. Both seem to be perfect punches (like the one jersey ended charles with) any man would be down for ten after taking 15 stones worth of perfect punch.
There is a story about Wills attending the wake of a friend who was a boxer ,a big man,apparently the coffin had to be carried down several flights of stairs before it could be transported to the funeral parlour. Several friends turned up to help ,but the stairway was too narrow to permit them to all help.Wills is supposed to have shouldered the casket and taken it down and out into the street. Wills was a health nut, and went on fasts to cleanse his body of impurities. I've no doubt he was a very strong man.
He was a great fighter. I've noticed fighters from the 1920s and before who are judged mostly without people having seen the film tend to get rated a lot better than the ones who have a lot of easy-fo-find footage.