What strategy would Leonard use against Pryor

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  1. Matt Bargas

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    1. Toe to toe as he did in the first Duran fight?

    2. Clowning as in Duran II?
     
  2. Flash24

    Flash24 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Leonard probably fights him flat footed, use his better hand speed height,reach, weight,and power. Leonard didn't like Pryor. But unlike Duran who he also didn't like , and was able to capitalize and drag Leonard into a brawl. Pryor wouldn't be able to do that. Leonard destroys Pryor less than 10 rds and shuts him up.
     
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  3. Matt Bargas

    Matt Bargas Member Full Member

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    Why can’t Pryor drag him into a brawl?

    The one advantage that Leonard has is size. I’m not sure that he’s any faster than Pryor.

    So, at the higher weights 154, 160, Leonard has the advantage

    At 147 it’s a close call. Much like Duran vs Leonard.

    At 140, 135, advantage Pryor

    Remember the Leonard of the 70s was smaller, right around 140, so its not a stretch to have him fight at the lower weight.
     
  4. PernellSweetPea

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    More counterpuncher. He would be in range of him, but why stand and get hit.. He would defensively try to walk him down and would probably stop him in 6 rounds
     
  5. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    He would go toe to toe and beat the hell out of Pryor before the KO he was no Duran/Armstrong...watch a few of Pryors fights he was a very small 140lb fighter who was dropped a number of times and his power was average he clocked fighters with beautiful punches with little effect he beat them down with volume Dujuan Johnson faceplanted him and with a little more accuracy he would KO him....no Panama Lewis drug potions he is never a champion...
     
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  6. Matt Bargas

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    How about these fights?

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  7. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    His claim to fame was beating an old tired Cervantes and the fighter who was better at 130 and 135 he was older tired and fought one weight class too big.....most of the fighters at 140 were non competitive lightweights or small welterweights who weren't good enough to fight the Welterweights top guys. The hype has people believing he could have beaten SRL and Hearns the truth was he belonged at 135 and might not have been a champion at that weight imagine if Rosario cracked him with his top tier power.....there was a very good reason he was kept at 140 even though he started at 135 he went where he would be successful....can't blame his people the opportunity was there but when he was champion lightweights were trying to fight him because they thought they could beat him....without the 140 division Pryor is never seen as a great fighter and I enjoyed Pryor but he was well marketed with the Arguello fights.
     
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  8. Matt Bargas

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    He actually did beat Hearns when they were both amateurs
     
  9. richdanahuff

    richdanahuff Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    That is true Hearns was a teenager and a scrawny underfed 132lb fighter at 6'1" but when he matured into a man as a pro he was not the same fighter he was a killer with huge power and fought to hurt people and even then he was KO'g 150+ lb fighters. Look I liked Pryor but the hype train wasn't the same for a fighter he was not really a money fighter until he beat Arguello and I would suggest that was his pinnacle although suspiciously with Panama Lewis's help....I kind of wonder if that had been a physically matured Mancini in that fight instead of the 19yr old who was beaten by Arguello if he would have beaten him as well....Pryor was going downhill before the black bottle debacle
     
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  10. Jel

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    I used to think this would be a really close fight as Pryor impressed me so much in his performance against Arguello but now I'm positive that Leonard would win.

    He had the physical advantages in height and weight and I don't think Pryor's power would be as effective at 147, although he'd obviously still be a threat. In terms of boxing fundamentals the edge is with Leonard - he had a good jab, underrated power and oustanding balance.

    If Pryor tried to rushed Leonard like he did Arguello, he would get knocked out. If he tried to box Leonard, he'd be outboxed. So I think Leonard could beat Pryor either way.
     
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  11. Fergy

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    This.. He'd counter him and break him down that way .I think a little longer personally ,about 10 round but still the same tactics.
     
  12. JohnThomas1

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    Absolutely. In short Pryor is no Duran and Leonard had learnt that lesson already.
     
  13. PernellSweetPea

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    yeah you are right. More like 10 or even later if it were a 15 rounder, as it would have been. Pryor would be in Ray's range. Getting into a war would make it more even. Ray had good power. Just sit back and break down Pryor and finish him. Ray would have done it.
     
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  14. ETM

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    ouch!

    That stung a little. I agree he was basically a lightweight who was avoided so he took a shot at 140 against ETM. Pryor was fantastic. I can only judge based on what I saw at 140. Pryor`s power? He knocked out just about everyone he fought. That`s like knocking Armstrong`s power. He threw so many it was never an issue. He could fight that whirlwind style, he could box when he needed to. He had very good speed and he threw punches from all angles...he was a NUT

    I got the impression that Aaron Pryor was a great athlete who just happened to box. He didn't always go by the book he sort of wrote his own.


    Pryor/Leonard? I`ll take Leonard in a good fast fight that goes the distance. Sugar Ray would be able to knock Pryor down perhaps multiple times. Pryor would also get inside and make it a rough night for Ray.
     
  15. Xplosive

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    This is one of the single dumbest posts on boxing I've ever seen in my life.