What Sure Fire Hall Of Fame Heavies Have the Klitschkos Officially Beat?

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  1. Hands of Iron

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    Not counting Tyson himself:

    Berbick (#1, WBC)
    Smith (#1, WBA)
    Thomas (#1)
    Tucker (#1, IBF)
    Biggs (#8 )
    Holmes (HOFer who took Holy the distance and beat undefeated Mercer 4 yrs later)
    Tubbs (UR)
    Spinks (RING/Lineal)
    Williams (#2)
    Douglas (#7)
    Ruddock (#2)
    Ruddock II (#2)
    Bruno (#7, WBC)
    Seldon (#6, WBA)


    It's irrefutable. :deal
     
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  2. turbotime

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    Beast resume. Top 13 Heavyweight without question. :good
     
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  3. FelixTrinidad

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    Great Resume, from a great Fighter.


    Tyson also ruined what could have been the Irish Klithscko

    [ame]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=flEns6Nf3_E[/ame]
     
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  4. Hands of Iron

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    :lol:

    At the very least, he fulfilled his obligations. Can't fight Muhammad Ali if he ain't there.
     
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    How many #1 contenders Dempsey beat? Oh yeah, he ducked him for six ****in years. Tyson beat four of them in a matter of months. See ya, Jack.
     
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  6. RUSKULL

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    Tyson makes the Top 10 AT Heavyweights for me. Youngest ever, lots of devastating KO's, yeah, he's top 10.
     
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  7. RUSKULL

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    Joke fight.
     
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  8. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    :lol:

    Luckily for you, your Tyson discourse has completely made me rethink my placement of Iron T. I think I bought into the Dempsey myths as a kid :oops:

    Greb smacked him around in sparring too I've read a few accounts of.
     
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  9. turbotime

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    :good
     
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  10. FelixTrinidad

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    Wladimir have a chance to add to this.

    Easily. He's 35-36


    There are as of right now, two guys who might possibly be Hall of Famers, and have the

    ABILITIES to be ATGS. That is young David Price and Olympian Anthony Joshua.
    Abilities wise, they both got chances to be very very good. Now depending on their chin,heart and work ethics we will see. But if Wlad waits a while and end up beating both Price and later on Joshua. Then retires and watch Price and Joshua dominate.. That will put him in top 10.


    The thing is Wladimir don't depend on himself, he depends on how good his competition will become.

    And it is not coming from America atm (sorry). Bryant Jennings at best AT BEST will be as good as Ruddock. And that's him reaching max max potential.

    Seth Mitchell will at best probably be a Tommy Morrison.
     
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  11. Hands of Iron

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    :nod

    Hey, as it pertains to the topic at least he's got 2 HOFers there. Spinks (31-0) who a few felt still had a claim for the title and Tyson was even accused of "ducking" (Real Reason: Butch Lewis angling for more $$$$) and Holmes (48-2) who while way past had never been stopped before or after much less in the 4th round and actually went on to some success several years later.
     
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  12. RUSKULL

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    I agree with most of this. You can add Povetkin if Sasha ever grows the ballz to fight Wladimir.
     
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  13. turbotime

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    When you think about it, that is as many HOF'ers as most of the other top 10 guys really. The Spinks win was huge. He made it look so easy that IMO people kind of underrate it.

    Where if it would have been an epic struggle, with Tyson coming out on top, it would have been probably blown out of proportion.

    Kind of like Larry Holmes beating faded HOF'er Ken Norton by a hair....if he had blasted Norton out in one..it would have been...ah well, Norton is washed up anyways.
     
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  14. turbotime

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    The Klits should just retire and let all hell break loose between the contenders and let them build their names to be HOF'ers...and in 30 years they can look back and say "Yeah, I beat them" :yep
     
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  15. Hands of Iron

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    I give Wladimir his respect. You have to see why people view him in a greater light than Vitali. He's fought the far better opposition.

    At Heavyweight, there isn't any divisions these guys can move up or fighters they can chase like the Floyd's and Pacquiaos, etc. They only have what's in front of them in their own time. At the very least, they secure their place in the pantheon by defeating the top rated contenders of their time.

    THEN... you look and break down their abilities and levels as fighters amongst other great Heavyweights resumes.


    That's how I look at it anyways. :conf
     
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