what the f*ck is going on? is that 1-dimensional Pac dodging, slipping, countering...

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  1. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    and throwing right hooks and uppercuts in 2001? Against a world champ? In Las Vegas? Impossible!

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    BlueApollo Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Look how wide open he was for a counter right in #4.
     
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    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    he landed a solid uppercut, before that he was completely covered 100%. He head was behind the opponent's left shoulder

    no way he could get hit by a counter right. The opponent would have to throw his right across his body, after getting hit flush by an uppercut.

    Look at their foot positions.
     
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    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he was off balanced, he's in no business to counter with a right.
     
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  5. Kush

    Kush Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He's always been doing that
     
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    enzo Greatest Of All Time Full Member

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    he was just fast and strong... his balance was terrible.
     
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    Jeff M Future ESB HOF Full Member

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    When was he one-dimensional? I don't get the point of this thread. He simply has just refined things as he's went along. Fact is, that in some fights he simply has let the warrior in him get in the way of his boxing at times.
     
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  8. Mr. Blobby

    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    has anyone noticed how pacman's neck has gotten shorter as he's gotten older?
     
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  9. PH|LLA

    PH|LLA VIP Member Full Member

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    if you never thought he was 1-dimensional, then this thread is not intended for you. Most people thought he was at that time despite evidence of the contrary
     
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    Jbuz Belt folder Full Member

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    Well dodging and slipping is kind of required... whether you're one dimensional or not. You can't just lead with your face.

    Fact is, back in those days he was one-dimensional. That doesn't mean he couldn't throw hooks and counters. It just means that his game plan was solely based on coming forward and landing the 1-2. Of course other punches were thrown in. But these days his other punches are weapons, not just "gap-fillers", and he is just as effective on the backfoot. His defense is far more sound, and his movement is superb.
     
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    It's probably just gotten thicker as he filled out.
     
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    what about the other things?
     
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    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    he was limited for sure, but i think he was a little bit better than just one dimensional.
     
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    well if you watch the tapes of him before roach he did seem alittle on handed and in love with his power.
     
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    Mr. Blobby Well-Known Member Full Member

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    yeh i agree, plus his shoulders looks to have gotten bigger which probably covers abit of his neck now.
     
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