What the hell happend to Chambers?

I remember when you said Dimitrenko is the next great thing.

 

Hes obviously to white for some to :yep

 

Talking like a true knuckle head. Dim is no where near in the same level as both Klits brothers. When Chambers beat Dim, it was a great win for Chambers but it don't mean Chambers will do the same to Wlad cause umm well Wlad hits way too harder, faster and he's a way better fighter then Dim.

 

And Terry stfu about Peter cause he already lost to both Klits Brothers one by decision after he got rocked in the 12th round and the other he got destroyed and quit.

 

:good

Dimitrenko is a good, big heavyweight. Chambers is a very good, small heavyweight who was able to beat Dimitrenko. But Wlad is a very good and very big heavyweight.

Wladimir is much harder to fight than most people think. For a heavyweight, he is very fast on his feet. The "make him fight" statements are easy to make, but harder to do. He will either simply back and pop you with that right hand or clinch and tire you because he's so big.

 

He's too big, that mean bully! And I actually saw him hit poor Eddie when the ref wasn't looking... :roll:
And many here have said it already, Dimitrenko is a good boxer but nowhere near the K brothers. Even Chambers knew that, only he didn't expect the difference to be huge I believe.

 

getting wobbled in the second round really sent chambers into a shell that and he was to small to land on wladimir

 

why do people keep underestimating Haye? Let's just wait and see. The guy is as fast as a middleweight and has a murderous right hand. Did no-one notice Wlads shokcing lack of accuracy with his right hand against Chambers? he telegraphed all of them and Chambers managed to duck under most of them. Wlad won't be able to hit Haye so easily and as soon as Haye drops a "hayemaker" on his chin, which he will, things could get interesting! Just wait and see instead of writing Haye off so quickly.
I'm not dayign Haye will domninate him. But i can see him causing massive problems for either Klit. The problem here is that all the casual fans are judging him on his performance against Valuev. He did what he had to do, and now has himself in a better position. You can't blame him for that.

 

That maybe, but i would not be surprised if he gets in there, realises just how big and much stronger the guy is and do what he did against valuev, if he does not go for an early KO, i see no chance for him, those jabs will wear him down, and those huge rights will finish him (if he lets them go), yeah he missed a lot of rights, but it will only take one, hes a proven track record against heavys, we dont know if hayes punch will hurt him, yes he hits hard, and wlads chin may no be the best, BUT say he lands and wlad takes it ?, then what will haye do ?

 

imo haye is a very good fighter, but his chin is very bad, vlads chin is "only" bad:yep haye is very dangerous for every heavyweight, but i think vlad will have a really easy fight with him, vlads jab is unbelievble good, he will make his super fast one two and haye will get knocked down, and vlad will finish him. i see haye beating vitali, vitali has good reflexes but he is not as fast as vladimir, and not as cautios. i even think haye will knock vitali out.

 

Haye is a good boxer. He is really quick, has ring smarts, his Hayemaker is a powerful tool, and he's always in shape. He can go full 12 rounds, even when injured. Further, most of his fights are exciting.

Champion qualities, here.

As much as I disliked him pulling out of the two Klitschko fights, it turned out a wise move not to fight them, and not only for cash reasons. He needed some more experience in the HW division before facing the alpha dogs of the pack.

The victory over Valuev was not an exciting one, but showed:
- Haye may adapt to a specific opponent and sticks to his gameplan
- he has enough power to wobble one of the strongest chins in the division, even in the 12th round,
- he gathered twelve rounds of ring experience vs. the largest boxer of the planet.

OK, after praising Haye's qualities, I still think he'll lose to both Klitschkos, if he faces them soon.

- Haye's chin is not world class.
- Haye can be hit, despite his quickness (which he really has)
- He is smaller than both brothers, and needs to get inside to land one of his (very good) bombs.

If he shows an improvement in the defense department (i.e. in the Ruiz fight), I give him a reasonable chance to win vs. a Klitschko. A bigger chance than Chambers, Tua, Povetkin, Solis, or Adamek might have, but still not a chance to bet hard cash on.

Both Klitschkos appear robotic. But both are very complete fighters with lots of ring experience, power, skill, and surprising speed for their size. They wear the belts not 'cause they avoided any A-class challengers - they simply are the only A-class fighters out there.

And Haye is not yet on their level. Probably will never be. Which is a pity for the division.

 

Eddie wasn't throwing enough punches, i really thought he could have taken a few more chances in the earlier rounds. He was getting in on the inside of Wlad through the first half of the fight. I suppose he was hurt early on, and couldn't maintain his workrate....