What the hell happened to Ortiz?!

Discussion in 'British Boxing Forum' started by ishy, Jun 28, 2009.


  1. bored

    bored rent boy Full Member

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    Picked Maidana in this one. Ortiz can come back though, a loss is not the end despite the way fans react to it.
     
  2. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    It isn't the fans so much- it's the way HE reacted at the end of the fight. If he still wants it, it's there for him. It'll be interesting to see what he does next.
     
  3. TFFP

    TFFP The Eskimo

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    He got beat up in there. He fought the wrong gameplan entirely. 'Quitting' aside, he was about to get knocked out. He went down twice and Maidana was teeing off on him before they consulted the doctor.

    He could come back from it, but he's going to have to find a little more heart and tactical discipline. The latter is possible, the former can not be manufactured.
     
  4. bored

    bored rent boy Full Member

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    Yeh but it's the same with every defeat, guy goes from Sugar Ray to butterbean in 1 night.

    It was a bit worrying when you saw him talking afterwards but he's just a kid and he has the ability, he was one of the hottest prospects in the world and now people question if he will ever make it, I have a bit more faith than that.
     
  5. Paddy

    Paddy ESB Founders Club Full Member

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    Prehaps some one should have told him there was a possibility of him getting punched when he was signing his fat contract with GBP???

    Questions will be asked of the boy everytime he gets in the ring going forward.

    I hope he pulls himself together. maybe he needs a break and get away.

    He needs to ask himself if he really wants it.
     
  6. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    Just watched it.

    Damn!! What a fight!!!

    OMG I agree with Max Kellerman for once!!!!

    "But in boxing to be great more is required of you than any other sport, more is required of you than is reasonable."

    Now that is a quality quote from bug-eyed Max. I don't think Ortiz lost the fight but rather Maidana won it (if you catch my drift). That looping right hand was landing all night long.
     
  7. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    the guy was so over hyped its unreal.

    Khan knocked him out in 1 round as an amateur!!!
     
  8. ishy

    ishy Loyal Member Full Member

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    It was round 2 and the ams is completely different.
     
  9. trotter

    trotter Boxing Addict Full Member

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    It was a cracking fight, but Ortiz had the weaker chin; weaker punch; weaker heart.

    Despite hitting the canvas numerous times, Maidana was only really hurt once or twice; Ortiz was badly hurt a lot

    He was so easy to hit it was untrue, and he clearly doesn't have the chin to fight that way

    Getting badly knocked down moments after flooring your opponent in round one is naive in the extreme


    The interpreter before the start of the last round was saying 'Vic, I'm going to pull you out; Vic, give me a response' and Ortiz just looked vacant, he was done at that point I think, I started to worry he was in a real bad way and was surprised he came out
     
  10. robpalmer135

    robpalmer135 Obsessed with Boxing banned

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    the record I have seen say round 1, and your right it is completley different its much much harder to KO someone in the amateurs so its even more impressive. Khan was 16 at the time
     
  11. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  12. kosaros

    kosaros Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has said he wants a rematch - so he will be back :good
     
  13. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I read that on the main forum, too. Do you think it was just a bit of false bravado after probably getting it backstage from the GBP team, though? I don't know- I will defo like to see the rematch though!:good
     
  14. LHL

    LHL Captain Freedom Full Member

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    Downloading now hope its a good one.
     
  15. Losfer_Words

    Losfer_Words Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mate, YOU WILL NOT BE DISSAPOINTED!